ok stupid question..
1/4 clicks or 1/2 clicks?
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ok stupid question..
1/4 clicks or 1/2 clicks?
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The SPR has M2 turrets and 1 click with move impact 1/2 MOA. So 1 click equals 0.5" at 100yards, 1" at 200yards, 2.5" at 500yards. Excellent amount for a DMR/SPR. As it only takes half a rotation to go from a 100M ZERO to 500M, three quarters rotation takes you all the way to 800M. On a .308 bolt with a 14 power magnification then you might want the 1/4MOA clicks, I have a Leupold MK4 LR/T 4.5-14x50mm with 1/4MOA M1 turrets on that.
The SPR reticle is excellent for fast range estimation and great for holdovers without having to adjust the elevation. I have used the ACOG and the ACOG type BDC in the IOR CQB reticle scope and I find the 1.5-5 with SPR much faster for all ranges. Especially close range vs. the ACOG.
http://www2.leupold.com/products/reticles_SPR.htm
Illuminated Special Purpose Reticle (SPR)
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SPR Subtensions Diagram
SPR Hold Over Values Diagram
DOWNLOAD SPR INSTRUCTION MANUAL (PDF, 131K)
Take the fact that the SPR reticle is extremely fast for range estimation, and the hold overs can work like an ACOG so you don't have to adjust the elevation turrets, add in that on 1.5 power the illuminated circle can be run like a 65MOA ring on the EOTech and it is FAST really fast at close range, in fact I ran my two rifles on a timer one with an EOTech and one with the Leupold SPR on 1.5 power at 15yards and the split differences were in the couple of hundredths of seconds. Then when you look at it's range estimating capabilities and precision at longer ranges, (I regularly shoot SUB HALF MOA with my DD SPR and the Leupold on 5 power, groups at a true 100yards that are less than 0.5 of an inch) then add in the capability to use M2 BDC turrets for whatever your pet load is. I have 55, 62 & 77gr turrets, they are only $36 from Leupold delivered. Custom turrets are $70, if you want to works up a load that the military doesn't use, like a 68 or 69 grain load for a 1in9 barrel.
This scope really works well in the DMR/SPR type role where we are pushing an AR15 to perform from to it's limits from across the room to 800M. Like any optic you will have to learn the subtensions and the holdovers, but with practice the SPR makes an AR a very versatile weapon, I would take an SPR over an ACOG for all of these reasons.
My brother working the DD SPR with the Leupold SPR scope
Cameron
Last edited by Cameron; 08-11-09 at 21:08.
ok... now im torn in between 1.5 - 5x and the 2.5-8x.
Cameron,
im gona mount it on an 18in. so it will probably not see shooting cqb style.
more like a bench rest for 100yards.. and if chance allows. shoot 300-500 center of mass shots.
Im in no way in the military or leo agency.. just a happy shooter.
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I would put the 2.5-8x36mm on it from what you just said with the M2 turrets and the illuminated TMR reticle you can't get the SPR reticle.
Mark 4 2.5-8x36mm MR/T M2 Illum. Reticle
You will be able to shoot sub half MOA groups and make first round hit from 100-800 with either scope.
Personally I like the 1.5-5 on an AR15 and would put the 2.5-8 on .308 semi and then a 4.5-14 on the bolt action.
Here is someone we all know on here (USMC03) rocking a match with the 1.5-5 SPR scope.
Works up close if you need it
Cameron
Last edited by Cameron; 08-11-09 at 21:21.
ok i've checked out the MRT 2.5-8x M2. Why does the description say that it is calibrated for 308?? so does this mean there is no calibration for 5.56?
the 1.5-5x MRT sounds like it's a good match optic.
maybe for a 16in build?![]()
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Yardage BDC engraved on the dials the custom shop will custom engrave you dials to your specific load.
From the custom shop:
Custom Bullet Drop Compensation Dials
You know your rifle, riflescope, load, and ballistics like nobody else. Now you can have custom Bullet Drop Compensation (BDC) dials for your Leupold riflescope. Just fill out our ballistics worksheet (available at www.leupold.com) with your ballistics data, and we will, in turn, create a precision laser engraved dial that allows you to adjust for bullet impact at extremely long range.
whoa... that would be fine! i guess I know what to buy now... last problem is finding the doughwhich by the way isn't that easy nowadays
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FWIW - the SPR, the Mk12 is topped off with a NightForce 2.5-10.
It's for a very good reason, and are enthusiastically recommended by those with experience on them. I am not one of those guys, but I pay very close attention to what they are saying in regard to their application.
I'm not sure how the SPR can be faster than an ACOG with all those methods of ranging.
First there is only one ranging method for an ACOG. Each stadia line is 18" across (the average width of a man's shoulders) for the given distance. Just match up the line with the shoulders and pull the trigger.
I dislike ranging methods where you have to use body height, since often the height of a target is obscured by ground irregularities, brush etc. A horizontal shoulder width will be more visible than a vertical body or torso.
Secondarily I'd think you'd need to make sure the MR/T is at the appropriate magnification setting unless its FFP to range accurately.
I think some may have mastered the MR/T so that they're quicker than most, but for someone who hasn't used either scope, I'd bet the ACOG is a lot more user friendly not to mention faster.
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