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Thread: Brass Dings from hitting deflector

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    Most times, a scratch or ding has a story behind it. Even my wood stock rifles have dings. They always have a good memory or story behind them. Keep 'em clean to keep 'em around. Just recall the story behind each scratch or ding.
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    I’ll never criticize a guy for wanting to take care of and maintain his weapon. After all, it was his hard earned money that made the purchase of that weapon possible.

    But some folks need to understand that a weapon that gets used, will eventually show signs of that use. And signs of use should not be confused with signs of abuse.
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    I've been following this thread with interest since I get the same dings midway up my casings, but I found that it depends entirely on the ammo I use.

    I have a 16" bcm middy, using a bcm bcg and receiver extension/spring/carbine buffer.

    Privi M855 SS109 62gr lands at 2 o'clock, and hits the sharp edge of the deflector right beside the ejection port, leaving dings in the brass. It is extremely consistent though, putting the casings in a 1' circle about 5' away.

    Normally I don't use the following, but just as a test I ran some cheaper ammo through my rifle:

    Wolf green casing (lacquer coated) 55gr lands at 4 o'clock, and hits near the end of the deflector. Travels about 4', and spreads over a 2' circle. No dings.

    Wolf gray casing (polymer coated) 62gr does the same as the 55gr. No dings.

    Remington UMC 55gr lands at 3 o'clock, but seems underpowered, and only goes a couple feet. Leaves a nice stripe of brass along the middle of the deflector. No dings.

    Ultramax remanufactured 55gr lands at 3 o'clock, and leaves a nice stripe of brass along the middle of the deflector. No dings.

    At least for me, hotter loads would seem to be the cause of dings in the brass, and changing the ejection pattern. Of course I only have the M855 to compare to other cheaper ammo. Have you tried any other ammo besides XM193?

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    I can't find my eject chart anywhere, but I recall wanting an approx. 3-4:00 eject location, and extra carrier weight would help push it back from less desireable 1-2:00.

    So I don't understand why you were disappointed with the 5:00 and are now satisfied with 1:00?

    To each his own, but if I were you, I'd go back to the original set-up and add the velcro. Please enlighten me if I'm confused...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippers View Post
    I've been following this thread with interest since I get the same dings midway up my casings, but I found that it depends entirely on the ammo I use.

    I have a 16" bcm middy, using a bcm bcg and receiver extension/spring/carbine buffer.

    Privi M855 SS109 62gr lands at 2 o'clock, and hits the sharp edge of the deflector right beside the ejection port, leaving dings in the brass. It is extremely consistent though, putting the casings in a 1' circle about 5' away.

    Normally I don't use the following, but just as a test I ran some cheaper ammo through my rifle:

    Wolf green casing (lacquer coated) 55gr lands at 4 o'clock, and hits near the end of the deflector. Travels about 4', and spreads over a 2' circle. No dings.

    Wolf gray casing (polymer coated) 62gr does the same as the 55gr. No dings.

    Remington UMC 55gr lands at 3 o'clock, but seems underpowered, and only goes a couple feet. Leaves a nice stripe of brass along the middle of the deflector. No dings.

    Ultramax remanufactured 55gr lands at 3 o'clock, and leaves a nice stripe of brass along the middle of the deflector. No dings.

    At least for me, hotter loads would seem to be the cause of dings in the brass, and changing the ejection pattern. Of course I only have the M855 to compare to other cheaper ammo. Have you tried any other ammo besides XM193?
    I ran some supposedly weaker PMC bronze .223 and it ran a very similar pattern. The initial ejection pattern I was seeing before making changes was right on the sharp edge of the deflector and it was taking the finish off in the first 60 rounds through the weapon and the dings in the brass were quite deep. That's why I decided to do some tweaking. I need to shoot it some more and try a few more brands of ammo before I decide if I like the new pattern or if I will put a new spring back in. I prefer a pattern that doesn't make harsh contact with the deflector.

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    I would not expect this thread here, but at TOS......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quib View Post
    I’ll never criticize a guy for wanting to take care of and maintain his weapon. After all, it was his hard earned money that made the purchase of that weapon possible.

    But some folks need to understand that a weapon that gets used, will eventually show signs of that use. And signs of use should not be confused with signs of abuse.
    Thank you Quib! Well said!
    I must say that I am both proud of my equipment when it is new, and I treat it well and take care of it, but I take pride in the scratches, scars and stories the come along with use.

    I never once thought of trying to prevent the brass dings on the deflector. But I did notice them the first time I shot the gun.

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