INSIGHT MRDS????

[BLACK LION]

I have been back and forth with my optics for some time now...

I picked up a set of the MBUS and have settled on those for my BUIS...

I had a millett zoom dot which I liked but it was too robust for my taste as far as a red dot is concerned... I want something just as rugged but more HSLD...
Aimpoints are wonderful but the comp m4s is far too big for my liking and the T-1 just doesnt do it for me...
I switched to a 1-4x set up but it only serves certain roles and is heavier and has more drag... I would rather switch to a 2-10x with a qd mount for when I needed a precision shot at distance and run a small red dot the rest of the time...

I like this little guy and I love the fact that it was "tortured"... It seems to be exttremely rugged and I am partial to insights products since I already own an m6x and love it....
I have heard ofd some mounting issues but those are easily remidied....

Any opinions, thoughts, smack talk is appreciated...

thanks

[militarymoron]

any specific questions? regarding the mounting issue, the commercially available one doesn't come with a mount (it'll fit any docter mount though) and the insight mount is too low to co-witness and needs to be centered on the irons for better head position.
like the docter, you buy the optic, then buy the mount applicable for your intended usage.
the military kit comes with the aforementioned mount, plus a metal protector (hood). the button could be more positive.
the quick hit - it's nice and light. the click adjustments are better (IMHO) to those on the docter, fastfire, JP etc.

[BLACK LION]

Are they NV compatible??

Will it co-witness with an applicable riser mount???

Any recommendations other than this unit that is similar???

[militarymoron]

yes, there's a very low setting compatible with NVGs.
it'll co-witness with a larue irondot mount or a JP j-point mount with docter adapter (i believe).
i recommend researching the current mini red dot sights to see the differences between them - others i can think of are trijicon, jpoint, fastfire and pride-fowler.

[SMGLee]

Picture of MM's rifle with MRDS


Protective hood and the small light sensor in the lower front body that autogain according to the birhgtness of the enviroment. Auto gain is the default mode when the unit is initally switched on. under this photodiode mode, the battery life is supposed to have a one year run time.


Rear button used to adjust a brightness setting

[kmrtnsn]

I think you just convinced me to order the Fastfire II with the shield as my BUS; the Insight MRDS is expensive.

[militarymoron]

the Insight MRDS is expensive.

'expensive' is a relative term and needs to be qualified. i have a couple of burris fastfires myself, and they're great little sights. their price point is hard to beat, and for a hobbyist shooter like myself, it's probably all that's needed.
the insight MRDS price is on par with the ruggedized/waterproof mil/LE version of the docter sight, which was significantly more than the standard docter (MSRP is about $500 from trijicon). any optic that's built and tested to meet a mil std or spec, and is made in the USA is going to cost more. ultimately, it's up to the consumer to decide if it's worth the additional cost, but it's important to realize that it's not an apples-apples comparison.

[BLACK LION]

outstanding feedback! Thanks...

[SMGLee]

'expensive' is a relative term and needs to be qualified. i have a couple of burris fastfires myself, and they're great little sights. their price point is hard to beat, and for a hobbyist shooter like myself, it's probably all that's needed.
the insight MRDS price is on par with the ruggedized/waterproof mil/LE version of the docter sight, which was significantly more than the standard docter (MSRP is about $500 from trijicon). any optic that's built and tested to meet a mil std or spec, and is made in the USA is going to cost more. ultimately, it's up to the consumer to decide if it's worth the additional cost, but it's important to realize that it's not an apples-apples comparison.

Also to add, if it is to be your primary optic on a shotgun, or a carbine, i would not trust in the Fastfire. I have a Fastfire that went down twice. the MRDS are much better made and that much more rugged and durable.

[BLACK LION]

The J-point seems to be a viable option...I like that it can withstand 5000 Gs and only weighs .05 oz... it is stated that it it waterproof but I get leary when they dont specify how waterproof it is.... It can also operate in - 25 degree and up to 130 degress
Same with the Burris fastfire II...I like that it is rather inexpensive and offers some great mounting solutions... it is light and fast but boasts being able to withstand only 1000 Gs "at least" and claims to be submersible but does not detail the depth... It can operate in - 10 degrees and 100+

The Mrds seems to have both of these units beat in certain aspects but at a cost...