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    Choosing your MOA dot size

    I thought there would be something on this in the CQB sticky. Maybe I missed it.

    The Aimpoint site shows: 1 MOA = 30 mm at 100 meters = 1" at 100 yards

    So the dot in the T-1 would cover 120 mm or 4" at that distance.

    At a greater distance the 2MOA dot should be "more precise". But what about the inverse? What about down a hallway? Does the 2MOA get too small? Is the 4MOA easier to pick up?

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    I use an M4S and I think the 2MOA dot is too small.

    For bigger dots, I think you can use the dot's 12 o'clock/Zero degree tangent as a more precise aiming point while using the whole dot for speed.
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    Eotech's are 1MOA dot in the center and 65MOA in the outside circle. I've never lost the red dot on any target, including the moving variety (big ol' jackrabbits). I think the large outer ring makes it easier to keep that inner dot in your minds eye a little better. That's shooting at targets from 25m to 200m. I think intensity is a bigger factor in weather or not you'd lose the dot. Although, at maximum intensity, it's almost too bright in my opinion. I'm in the process of saving up for an Aimpoint, but I think with my experience so far with a 1MOA dot, I'd prefer smaller. I guess I'll see if that larger outer circle is focusing my eye in on the smaller dot.
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    I like the two moa dot on my M4s but it is slightly distorted, compared to the one dot on my eotech 553. I feel both are precise for my shooting needs, but give the edge to the eotech. Besides, the 65 moa circle allows me to find the dot and the target, faster when shooting on the move and engaging more than one target. YMMV.
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    This is one of those questions, that no matter how many people you ask, you'll get multiple answers and everyone thinks they are right. In their mind they probably are.

    I'm guessing you are talking about a sight for CQB, which is what the RDS is for. What works for me? I tend to like the larger dots like Aimpoint's 4 MOA dot or EoTech's 1 moa / 65 moa dot because they are easier to pick up. My eyes aren't as young as they use to be! On my work gun, I have a 4 MOA Aimpoint. It seems to work for me, it's fast, accurate and it's what I have!

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    i dont ever seem to have any trouble picking up a 2MOA dot on the lowest visible power setting... i like that dot as tiny as possible, especially at longer range, but at close range it makes no difference. if you're working in mixed light settings, like woods or moving in and out of houses, just crank the power setting up and make the dot brighter/bigger.

    a 2MOA dot at full power, even in broad daylight, becomes about a 6-10 MOA dot, to my eyes.

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    Yes this is a CQB question. I have plenty of scopes (and rifles) from my hunting days that are incredible for long range.

    Making the transition to the M4gery world has been interesting and will take much more training until it becomes my go to tool. As much as I want to like the T-1, the EoTechs I have tried are easier to use and find the dot (for me).

    I am trying to choose (COMPM3, M4 or T-1) an Aimpoint and trying to understand which will be easier to work up to and dot size seems to be an important consideration.

    Thanks for the comments.

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    a lot of people have trouble picking up the dot on the T-1s.. they're not for everyone. but the Comps are super easy.. comp m2-4, compc3.. all really good sights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    a lot of people have trouble picking up the dot on the T-1s.. they're not for everyone.
    That makes me feel a lot better. So many posters raving about the T-1. I was starting to get a complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preferred User View Post
    That makes me feel a lot better. So many posters raving about the T-1. I was starting to get a complex.
    its not just you. in fact, there was a thread on that very topic here on M4 sometime last year. i've only tried the T-1 on display weapons- i wouldn't say i had "trouble" picking up the dot, but it was finicky about cheekweld.

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