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    I am currently running a Sure Fire MB556 on my work LMT 16inch rifle. I recently attended a Magpul Carbine 2 class with it and I could definitely could see an advantage with this muzzle brake.

    Muzzle rise control is excellent. My red dot just quivers on the target, especially when shooting multiple rounds quickly. Noise for the shooter is not that bad. Its the shooters on your sides who suffer. I was running a PWS comp prior. The PWS directed more noise back towards the shooter. When shooing quickly with the PWS, I could feel the brake push the muzzle downwards as I fired. As noted by other users, the SureFire does kick up some debris when shooting urban prone.

    For my purposes, the control gained while shooting in 95% of various shooting positions out weights the debris kicked from urban prone.

    The Surefire does not suppress muzzle flash however. I do not find the muzzle flash to be distracting. For LE work, I am not too concerned about muzzle flash jeopardizing my position as I will probably be illuminating my target with my weapon light anyways.

    For recoil control and quick follow up shots, both the pws and the surefire offer big dividends over the standard a2 flash hider in my opinion. If money was not a factor, the new knights triple tap would be worth considering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverine View Post
    I have a SF MB556K on my primary AR, and while I like the reduced recoil...A LOT...the blast is problematic for urban prone, shooting near others, etc. I'd like to try the PWS brake/supressor, at some point. It sounds like a good compromise.
    I think that only tangible difference between the two is flash suppression (in favor of PWS). PWS also kicks a ton of dust in urban prone, and is obnoxiously loud too. The only brake that doesn't kick the dust - in my experience - is KAC TT; it doesn't suppress flash well.

    My personal rifles have A2 birdcage, Vltor, KAC NT-4, PWS556, and PWS brake for AK. I don't have a clear favorite, since it is kind of apples to oranges comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverine View Post
    I have a SF MB556K on my primary AR, and while I like the reduced recoil...A LOT...the blast is problematic for urban prone, shooting near others, etc. I'd like to try the PWS brake/supressor, at some point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ztf HITMAN View Post
    The AAC Blackout looks impressive as far as performance.
    Those blackouts got a nice ring to them.

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    I have a MB556K on my 16in AR. It works very well. For me the recoil reduction/reduction in muzzle climb is worth the loss in flash suppression and having to deal with the break kick shit up.

    I have shot next to other guns using the MB556K and while there is more concussion and its a little louder, I don't find it distracting or any more annoying than shooting next to any other AR... ymmv.

    FWIW, when using TAP, there is hardly any flash at all. This also goes for the M193 that I have fired through it. Federal Value Pack is very flash, though. About every 5-10 shots I get a decent sized fireball. It doesn't bother me, though.

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    I have an MB556K on one of my guns.

    I noticed that the concussion is louder for me the shooter, than others on the line. That was MY experience. The recoil impulse? All I can say is that it is different. It feels straight back like that of a Ak 74 brake. Shooting alternate prone positions is where it really becomes a turn off as others have said. It kicks up a ton of debris. I feel that maybe it's best suited for a precision or match gun.

    Stick that's a ****ing cool pic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al U. 5811 View Post

    Stick that's a ****ing cool pic!

    Thanks, I like it as well.
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    It's all good, owning the SF brake is my excuse to myself as to why I "have" to acquire the appropriate bona fides to purchase a can for the thing.
    Contractor scum, AAV

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    I use A2's and peel-washers on all of my AR's sans one (which has an Vltor VC-1)

    Course' it helps that I run a Gemtech HALO and it works with them

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    I hate to hijack this thread but I have to say that is one of the best action photos that I have seen in a long time!

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