Thankyou, I appreciate that.
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Thankyou, I appreciate that.
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I've used the older 4-slot Phantom & the FSC556 on my gun. The FSC seems to smooth things out a little & while it does kick up some dirt in urban prone I haven't found it to be a deal breaker for me. Some of the guys at the last OPS Tactical Carbine class said they got some good blast from it but it doesn't come back on me at all. It is a little louder than my Phantom, but not bad at all.
Anyone have any input on the Smith Vortex?
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I'm extremely curious about Troy's two offerings. Does the brake actually suppress flash, or is it simply a brake.
Will a brake mitigate recoil on an indirect impingement system, or is it a waste of time?
troy's midevil doesnt do that well at supressing flash, its much like the a2 birdcage.
the aac blackout is really good.
You hit the nail right on the head.
I have the Surefire MB556k and I absolutely love it. Now this is a break, not a flash hider. So don't expect much as far as flash reduction is concerned. If your shooting at night, get a can. Most people don't like brakes because the concussion from it will bother the shooter to the left or the right. Well I have a couple friends with the same brake and it doesn't bother me one bit. In fact I ran a Magpul class about six months ago and throughout the whole class I was in between two of them. One on a SBR and another on my buddies 16in. Didn't bother me at all, and I spoke with the other shooters and it didn't bother them ether... I am not saying there is no concussion, I am just saying its really not bad at all. I think people get caught up in what they read and then go out and when they feel a little gush of wind and a bit of loud noise they automatically respond with "oh my god this is horrible." If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. As far as muzzle rise, it is pretty much gone. Truly a day and night difference. You can shoot much faster while staying accurate. The one big negative is that when firing in the urban prone, the brake kicks up a flurry of dirt and rocks which can get in your eyes... This however can be remedied by a good pare of eye-pro. (learned that the hard way)
I digress to SF's promo vid and some pictures of my own:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWUk6GJQhNQ
Another picture of what happens in the urban featuring yours truly.
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Last edited by aftermath686; 09-15-09 at 16:19.
I got to shoot with one in low light (shade side of a mountain with the sun going down rapidly), they are better than an A2 in hiding flash. I would also say just a shade better than my 4 slot phantom. I personally can't tell the difference between the Vortex and my AAC SPR M4 Blackout, but I haven't shot them in the dark yet.
None of the devices I listed really seemed to effect recoil for me.
Unless you are using a silencer, I don't think you need anything other than an A2 flashhider.
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It is not a matter of need. It is a matter of being as proficient as possible with ones weapon. Having the ability to engage multiple threats and shoot the same target more times much faster than with an A2 is a very significant advantage. Split seconds could potentially make a big difference in a gun fight, and I don't know about you, but I am going to get every advantage I can when my life or more importantly my brothers lives are on the line.
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