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    Quote Originally Posted by .45fmjoe View Post
    Anyway, I would stay away from all the "kit gun" manufacturers and save a little more money.
    I picked up a 'complete' lower recently (Mega Gator receiver, strictly for the receiver as it was part of a trade) that was outfitted with Model One Sales 'kit'. Besides the springs being junk, the detent pins were atrocious and the takedown pins, hammer, and trigger were like potmetal (MIM?). The main part for me was the sear...which made me gasp when I took it out. PLEASE spend a few bucks more and get quality parts!

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    WTF, over? See that 'groove' all the way around...I'm assuming from a poor MIM process:



    "Groove" goes all the way around. Check out the contact surface where it grabs the hammer:

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    I bought a kit from MAparts over a year ago to finish a stripped lower I had. It has a 14.5 in. bbl. with permanent flash hider and M4 feed ramps. I don't have what you'd call extensive experience with AR rifles, but I've been around a few of them. I was very pleased with the quality of the parts in the kit I received. They did short me a disconnector spring, but after a phone call, they shipped me one along with an assortment of other springs and pins. It has been very reliable rifle, never a fail to feed or fail to fire, and is fairly accurate to boot. A MOA gun at least, and it will put down a coyote in a hurry. I'm not speaking for every kit they sell, but I am a very satisfied customer and would buy from them again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uranus View Post
    NB: I would never buy a carbine from the "local" gun store, unless the gun store was also a recognized specialist (and recognized by other people than those that are employed by and shop at the gun store).
    I hope you mean assembled by a "local" store. As long as it's one of the recognized quality brands, I have no problem buying locally if price and availability is right. In fact, my LMT came from the local shop. While I had to sort through a wall of overpriced Bushies and DPMS guns, they had two LMT Defenders. I got the one that had the upgraded charging handle (apparently, it had just come in) and walked out with it, a nylon case and a couple boxes of M193 for a price I was happy with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .45fmjoe View Post
    I just want to clarify something, you did not "seen on their website..." Seen is not the past tense of "see." You saw on their website..."

    Anyway, I would stay away from all the "kit gun" manufacturers and save a little more money.
    I don't check my grammar in forums.

    I wasn't aware that my forums posts were being graded.

    Back to the topic- I was thinking of ordering either a Spikes tactical upper with Adams Arms gas Piston kit installed and Adams Arms once piece bolt. Or just getting the entire rifle from them, maybe.

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    I was really tempted to buy one of their kits as a back up/loner when I read that they were chambered and assembled by LMT. Then I read their "All your questions answered here" section, and thought that my eyes were going to be permanently rolled into the back of my head. Then I read the reviews here.

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    Thanks everyone. I decided to stay away from that kit. I'm going with better quality parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tographer View Post
    I picked up a 'complete' lower recently (Mega Gator receiver, strictly for the receiver as it was part of a trade) that was outfitted with Model One Sales 'kit'. Besides the springs being junk, the detent pins were atrocious and the takedown pins, hammer, and trigger were like potmetal (MIM?). The main part for me was the sear...which made me gasp when I took it out. PLEASE spend a few bucks more and get quality parts!

    M1S on top, Stag on bottom



    WTF, over? See that 'groove' all the way around...I'm assuming from a poor MIM process:



    "Groove" goes all the way around. Check out the contact surface where it grabs the hammer:


    Not MIM, that is stamping flash that was not removed. Teh AR disconnector is a stamping. The hammer and trigger are castings as is the Bolt Hold Open. Always has been this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Metal View Post
    Not MIM, that is stamping flash that was not removed. Teh AR disconnector is a stamping. The hammer and trigger are castings as is the Bolt Hold Open. Always has been this way.
    Exactly. That’s flash from the stamping process.
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    i thought stamped parts were stamped through- so you end up with a radius on one side and a sharp edge on the other.. stamping from both sides seems extremely inefficient

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    i thought stamped parts were stamped through- so you end up with a radius on one side and a sharp edge on the other.. stamping from both sides seems extremely inefficient
    I could be wrong, but I don’t think that disconnector was stamped from both sides. Punched from sheet steel might be a better term. It does appear to have an excessive amount of flash though, and doesn’t appear to have been cleaned up at all before being parked.

    With the demand placed on manufacturers these days, I think this lack of QC has been pretty common.
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