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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    You will... have a much better appreciation for the SG (which I now do)...
    It brings a tear to my eye to read this. I'm proud of you, Grant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Templar View Post
    This is what happens when you put a M4 style stock on your Mossberg and don't quite have the shotgun positioned correctly when you drop the hammer.........
    I had just remarked to myself that I didn't see any of the telltale signs of a shotgun course; then I saw your photo... There's one in every class!

    Quote Originally Posted by MR.J View Post
    but man some of you guys need to take some mma classes.As a fat body.. like myself( no pics) who got in shape i'm sure it would make a HUGE impact on your firearm training.I know there is only so much time in a day,but man.Also a little blood like that is no biggie( i know i'm doing the my co$k is bigger then your co#c thing) but take some mma classes and try getting hit and get the sh^t knocked out of your nose and getting slammed on the mat... then we will talk.
    Remember tough guy -- don't make eye contact!


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    Alright guys, let's keep it on track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR.J View Post
    Look's like a good class with the best shotgun trainer in the world.. but man some of you guys need to take some mma classes.As a fat body.. like myself( no pics) who got in shape i'm sure it would make a HUGE impact on your firearm training.I know there is only so much time in a day,but man.Also a little blood like that is no biggie( i know i'm doing the my co$k is bigger then your co#c thing) but take some mma classes and try getting hit and get the sh^t knocked out of your nose and getting slammed on the mat... then we will talk.
    I love these posts. There was a pic of Vickers once and some village idiot made the comment about his weight. I have to wonder if that person was standing in front of him would have unzip his pie hole and tell him he was fat.

    One of the biggest guys in class is a fighter (trains). I am guessing you would not open your pie hole if he was standing in front of you.


    Your posts add nothing to the discussion of ANY value. If you want to discuss working out, there is a forum for that.


    C4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraq Ninja View Post
    Grant,

    What about when you shoot it left handed?

    Was there any discussion of the Saiga style of shotguns? I know they are becoming popular in three gun matches. I own one and am very pleased with its performance and reliability.
    Gravity might change the outcome some, but the one I saw was trapped so fast that I am not sure it would have fallen out.

    Not much on the Saiga.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MR.J View Post
    Look's like a good class with the best shotgun trainer in the world.. but man some of you guys need to take some mma classes.As a fat body.. like myself( no pics) who got in shape i'm sure it would make a HUGE impact on your firearm training.I know there is only so much time in a day,but man.Also a little blood like that is no biggie( i know i'm doing the my co$k is bigger then your co#c thing) but take some mma classes and try getting hit and get the sh^t knocked out of your nose and getting slammed on the mat... then we will talk.
    While I agree with you that physical fitness & basic health is the #1 most overlooked survival skill by members of this and virtually every other online discussion forum, calling it out here in this thread was pretty uncalled for.

    Also, just because any one person may seem to be greatly missing the fitness and health boat doesn't mean they don't have something to offer. A guy could be 200 lbs overweight but an ace armorer and would have knowledge to share. Or a guy could smoke 2 packs a day and still offer valuable insight in terms of shooting and fighting with a firearm.

    ETA:
    Anyone that wants to discuss the health/weight/fitness issue, let's do it here and keep it out of this thread.
    Last edited by rob_s; 09-15-09 at 10:44. Reason: add link to health discussion.

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    Excellent AAR guys. The class looks like fun was had by all.

    Could someone further discuss the recoil management techniques (70/30 and Push pull) used in this class?

    Thanks
    For God and the soldier we adore, In time of danger, not before! The danger passed, and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier slighted." - Rudyard Kipling

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    I have pics from TD2 loaded up now and I'm working on video that I took.

    As far as reloading.....as Rob said, you need to be "amphibious"...

    Be able to load with either your support or strong hand, and a that will have more to do with where you have your ammo placed on you and your shotgun, and whether you go over the receiver or under it depends on if the shells are coming out oriented to the front or rear. This is especially true if you're using some kind of pouch which is carrying the spare ammo loosely.

    If I'm loading with my support hand, I'll bring the butt of the shotgun back up and against my ribs and brace it with my "master grip" arm, muzzle slightly up while I'm replenishing the magazine. If I'm using ammo from my strong side, then my support hand is holding the shotgun securely with the muzzle pointing up and to the right as I'm replenishing the magazine.

    If you're not shooting, you should be reloading the magazine, conditions permitting.

    I took out a California Competition Works 6 shell carrier and wore it on my belt in front of my Glock 19, and I really liked the way it allowed me to reload with a minimum of effort and kept everything where I needed it.

    http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/con...tical_Stripper



    Zhurdan, I drove a bit less than 9 hours, more like 7, but I understand your frustration. We've had guys come out to classes from Cali, and one of the things you can do about ammo is have it drop shipped to someone who will be attending the class, and then they can bring it out for you. Not a huge deal, and very doable.
    Last edited by TOrrock; 09-15-09 at 16:47.
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    Where can you find his training schedule?

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    First I have seen this Mossy out in the wild. Those are the sights developed for the NYPD, although theirs are on 14" Mossys. If the owner is here could you PM me some thoughts?

    If the 930SPX owner is on could you PM me comments please also?

    Thanks, sorry for the de-rail

    I'll need to pull down his scheaduale to
    Last edited by DMR; 09-15-09 at 22:02.
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    [QUOTE=C4IGrant;453310]At the end of TD2, we (the class) wanted to see how fast we could shoot 5rds out of our guns. Rob went first. He was able to run 5rds out of his gun in the low two second range with what seemed to be little to no effort.

    Below are a succession of pics of him doing the drill. Notice the lack of muzzle climb as he runs through the rounds.






    I love that little short gun.
    Last edited by QuietShootr; 09-15-09 at 22:09.

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