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Thread: New Viking Tactics VTAC EXTREME BattleRail - By Troy Industries

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    Quote Originally Posted by hifiguy View Post
    Ok, so I received my 11" TRX Extreme yesterday and immediately put it on the scale to see how she would stack up and I was a little dissapointed as the rail gains weight pretty quickly as you add on the accessory rails. Also, the weights I got weren't even close to what Troy stated in their email to me which was "The TRX extreme 11” is 9.93 with rail sections...and this weight includes the barrel nut" So here are my results:

    11" TRX Extreme rail and barrel nut ONLY = 10.24 oz.
    3" bolt-on rail section with screws and threaded plate = 1.20 oz.
    4" bolt-on rail section with screws and threaded plate = 1.44 oz.
    11" Rail, barrel nut, both 3" bolt-on sections and one bolt-on 4" section = 14.08 oz.

    Note that the 4" rail section had a QD swivel socket milled into it so at least you wouldn't have to add the weight of an add-on QD socket. If you weren't going to bolt on all the add-on rails, this would be a pretty light weight rail, but in comparison, the Daniel Defense Lite 12" rail only weighs 14 oz. including barrel nut. Granted, you'd have to add a bolt-on QD swivel socket, but the Daniel Defense QD socket I have only weighed in at 0.48 oz.

    I guess this is why I'm a little dissapointed, because even with the added weight of the bolt-on QD socket and with full length picatinny rails on all 4 sides the Lite rail (which is also 12" long vs. the Troy's 11") would only weigh 0.4 oz more than the Troy with all the bolt-on sections attached. After looking at the TRX, I think Troy could have made it quite a bit lighter in some areas with a few extra machining steps.

    If you were going to run this rail without any of the bolt-on sections, hands down, it is the lightest and smallest rail currently produced and is a pretty innovative design. I would, like some of you in the previous comments, be concerned about heat from the barrel if shooting without gloves and running some high round counts.

    As far as the TRX Standard is concerned - I'm with rob - it is an extremely heavy rail and other than how it mounts, I see nothing that really stands out with this rail. Again, looking more in-depth at this rail, there is a LOT Troy could have done to make it lighter - just more machining steps, which of course equals a higher price.

    In the end I think I'll just end up putting a Danel Defense 12" Lite rail on this rifle as I think it will better suit my needs than either the TRX Extreme or Standard. I'll be posting them both of the TRXs for sale in the EE pretty soon.
    Thanks for the info! Much appreciated. Like you, without the weight savings, ths FF is worthless FOR ME. I, like you, would prefer the flexibility afforded by four continuous rails on all sides if it's going to end up weighing in at an insignificant difference.
    Last edited by adh; 09-19-09 at 12:44.

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    Rails and sections were weighed today on US Postal scales.

    Weights Just ----------Rail---------Rail w/nut
    VTAC-EXT-13---------11.1 oz.-------12.6 oz.
    VTAC-EXT-11----------9.7 oz.-------11.2 oz.
    VTAC-EXT-9----------- 8.2 oz. --------9.7 oz.
    VTAC-EXT-7------------7.0 oz. --------8.5 oz.

    2" rail = .8 oz. 4" rail = 1.6 oz. Nut = 1.5 oz.
    Last edited by GLOCKMASTER; 09-18-09 at 20:33.

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    What is the relationship between Troy and Viking Tactics? Are they owned by the same company or something?
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    Troy is an OEM for some of Viking Tactics products. They are separate companies.

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    Any feedback or reviews on these or the Troy Extreme rails. I really want feedback on heat during extended or rapid fire. I have a 9mm carbine that I would like to put this rail on for local pistol cal carbine matches. I'll be dumping 30 or so rounds pretty quickly per stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M&P45 View Post
    Any feedback or reviews on these or the Troy Extreme rails. I really want feedback on heat during extended or rapid fire. I have a 9mm carbine that I would like to put this rail on for local pistol cal carbine matches. I'll be dumping 30 or so rounds pretty quickly per stage.
    During the EAG class here in October I used my SBR with the VTAC Extreme Rail. The only time I noticed it getting warm was during several back to back NSR drills. It took several for it to get warm however, it never got warm enough that I could not hold it with bare hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFreuler View Post
    During the EAG class here in October I used my SBR with the VTAC Extreme Rail. The only time I noticed it getting warm was during several back to back NSR drills. It took several for it to get warm however, it never got warm enough that I could not hold it with bare hands.
    Thanks for the reply. I'll be sending my barrel off to Adco to be turned down after this match. No I have to decide on the 7 inch rail with the barrel mounted front sight or go longer and mount a sight on the rail. I don't think I will go longer than 9 inches since I'm trying to lighten this thing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M&P45 View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I'll be sending my barrel off to Adco to be turned down after this match. No I have to decide on the 7 inch rail with the barrel mounted front sight or go longer and mount a sight on the rail. I don't think I will go longer than 9 inches since I'm trying to lighten this thing up.
    I'll keep you posted.

    I've been rebuilding my 9mm carbine the last few weeks - I picked up a new Nodak 9mm marked lower, changed over to an ACS and have a 13" Troy TRX Extreme on the way with delivery expected Wednesday.

    I was seriously considering the VTAC version because of the slots but fell into a deal on the Troy that I just couldn't pass up. I'll be running MBUS front and rear and my old EOTech 511; slinging is TBD.

    I'm considering sending the barrel off to ADCO for a recontour but want to see what the balance is like as is first.

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    That Extreme rail really looks nice.

    Compared to other rails I imagine it's not like holding a cheese grader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M&P45 View Post
    Any feedback or reviews on these or the Troy Extreme rails. I really want feedback on heat during extended or rapid fire. I have a 9mm carbine that I would like to put this rail on for local pistol cal carbine matches. I'll be dumping 30 or so rounds pretty quickly per stage.
    I've run about 500 rounds through my new build with the 13" Troy TRX-E tube on it, half of that was as fast as I could pull the trigger and change mags. During normal firing or even rapid firing 1-2 mags heat is not an issue, even with bare hands. Multiple mags it does get hot, but no hotter than any other tube is going to get after a couple hundred rounds dumped through it. It didn't start getting real uncomfortable untill about mag #5.

    So far I love the rail, real light, and solid.

    I'm not sure who to blame, but between the Troy sights and rail, and the BCM upper, sighting in took zero windage adjustment, and only two clicks of elevation to be right on. I was real pleased with the tolerances ending up being that close.

    Still looking for a good sling mount solution that doesn't involve mounting a section of rail, or the sling stud that is available and uses a teflon nut to hold it in place.

    Anyone got sling mount suggestions? KNS has one that looks like it will work, but haven't seen it in use yet.

    Last edited by kwrangln; 11-22-09 at 11:54.

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