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    We actually purchase our own. We were given authority to purchase and carry. No one purchases the Colt. Believe me, it was my first thought, but you are not buying the same as used in the military. That's why my friend says it is not military spec. He said the M&P was the closest to the colt he carried. The L.E. colt won't take the 5.56 nato round. .223, but nothing else, from what I heard. I could be wrong though.

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    I just wanted to add, I was not trying to start a typing war, hehe. I just hear so many opinions about what to buy and waht's the best. I think it is funny that we are so particular about our guns. I guess it depends if you are a collector or an operator. I think I am going to get the Stag for now. If it doesn't stand up to the beating, then I will use it as a baton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Most times, cops/SWAT don't be have any say in what they carry. The pencil pushers buy the cheapest AR's they can find.
    Nothing persuades a CLEO like having his own issued good-as bargain gun poop the bed. Nor does anything generate a purchase order as fast.

    Interestingly, the price difference between quality and the lessers isn't that great with a smart buyer and competitive bidding.

    Quote Originally Posted by harry_callahan View Post
    The L.E. colt won't take the 5.56 nato round. .223, but nothing else, from what I heard. I could be wrong though.
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    True.. I see some guys buy the top of the line gun, with all the bells and whistles. After spending 25, 000, they can't even hit center mass. I am looking for something simple and durable. Something that I can shoot on the move and be rough with. I know BMW makes a great car, but it is not practical for me.

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    I guess it is the old arguement. Do I use a semi auto or a reliable revolver as a back up weapon. You can bury a revolver in the dirt and still shoot it two days later. I like simple and functional. Putting rounds on target is up to the operator. all the money in the world doesn't put rounds in the ten ring.

    Seals use the sig sauer. Great gun, I own and use one. Rangers use something else. Whos right? is the 40 better than the 9? it is the age old questions that trigger several answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harry_callahan View Post
    We actually purchase our own. We were given authority to purchase and carry. No one purchases the Colt. Believe me, it was my first thought, but you are not buying the same as used in the military. That's why my friend says it is not military spec. He said the M&P was the closest to the colt he carried. The L.E. colt won't take the 5.56 nato round. .223, but nothing else, from what I heard. I could be wrong though.
    You are somewhat right. The only way to get an M4 is to be issued one. The cloeset second there is to the M4 is the Colt 6920. NO OTHER AR IS CLOSER TO AN M4 THAN THIS WEAPON!

    Colt's are chambered in 5.56 NATO and will shoot it just fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skintop911 View Post
    Nothing persuades a CLEO like having his own issued good-as bargain gun poop the bed. Nor does anything generate a purchase order as fast.

    Interestingly, the price difference between quality and the lessers isn't that great with a smart buyer and competitive bidding.



    You are.
    Like I said, I could be wrong, hehe. I do know there is some difference in the law enforcement edition due to rounds. That has been an issue with our range masters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harry_callahan View Post
    I guess it is the old arguement. Do I use a semi auto or a reliable revolver as a back up weapon. You can bury a revolver in the dirt and still shoot it two days later. I like simple and functional. Putting rounds on target is up to the operator. all the money in the world doesn't put rounds in the ten ring.

    Seals use the sig sauer. Great gun, I own and use one. Rangers use something else. Whos right? is the 40 better than the 9? it is the age old questions that trigger several answers.
    A shooter is a shooter (no matter what the weapon). Using the best quality components, proper PM's and lubrication also have a big role in the reliability of the AR platform.

    Differences of opinion on calibers is a different animal than what we are talking about here. The Colt AR follows the TDP to the letter. The M&P and Stag do not. It is really that simple.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harry_callahan View Post
    Like I said, I could be wrong, hehe. I do know there is some difference in the law enforcement edition due to rounds. That has been an issue with our range masters.


    I am guessing that they are trying to cram a 223 into a 556 chamber and the 223 brass is just a little too big which is causing malfunctions.



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    Grant, I will take somewhat right any day, hehe. I am by far no expert!!!! Just something I heard, which is causing some guys to buy th M&P at our dept. Seems like alot of guys are getting away from the bushmaster.

    Question. Is it the size or length of the round, that is the issue?

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