Andrew M. Manis, "When are WE Going to Get Over It?"

**huklbrry** · 09-24-09, 15:50

Zhurdan,

I was just trying to say that as Americans, in my opinion, we all need to turn the 24 hour news, talk radio monkeys off. Regardless of what wing or side they play for.

**dmanflynn** · 09-24-09, 16:31

Originally Posted by Zhurdan

I had a guy that worked for me that said this one time...

"A subtle lie is the best lie. People rarely see thru it. Now, them big lies... it doesn't take much to see thru those." A pretty simple statement from a pretty simple man, but he was right.

Personally, I'd prefer that they just didn't lie, but I believe as he did, that the subtle lies are far more damaging and far reaching, and Obama is pretty damn good at it.

Also, as a side note, if you're going to call the media liars, you may not want to use them to support your argument weather they are left or right leaning media.

Seems to me I remember reading of another man who was good at subtly lieing to the thousands, I think his name started with an H, or maybe a J...

**huklbrry** · 09-24-09, 17:02

They are the same in that they all "scare up" ratings so their advertisers will be happy. Thats generally why I get my news from factcheck.org, politifact.com ,or opencongress.org.

I reccomend them, getting the news in all of its "truthiness"

But who am I?
Just a guy who likes guns

**Spooky130** · 09-24-09, 17:10

If Barak Obama was white and a direct descendant of George Washington himself, I would still oppose his actions in regards to the US. I could care less what color he was as to what his policies and actions are. I will be the first person in line to vote for a black man who is Reagan incarnate.

Spooky

**huklbrry** · 09-24-09, 17:46

Reagan is one of the main players that began the downfall of the U.S.'s economy with the signing of the Garn-St. Germain Act back in 82'. Um, Savings and Loan Scandals. Anyone remember?

**CarlosDJackal** · 09-24-09, 18:39

Originally Posted by SHIVAN

...He never referred to equality. In fact, his message is divisive and incendiary.

Amen!! FWIW, I am a minority myself and over the years I have been in the receiving end of racism from the very individuals this moron is siding with.

Yes, you read that right. I have had more blacks tell me that I should "speak American" or I should "go home to China or wherever I came from" than any other group. I have also had more blacks tell me that I "shouldn't work so hard because I was making them look bad" than any other group.

I think that those who are quick to defend this so-called writer need to look at the racism he is advocating. I don't like obama not because he is half-kenyan or half-white. I don't like him because he's nothing more than a snakeoil salesman who got into office because of his skin color regardless of his experience or qualification. And IMHO, this is just as bad as if someone was voted in because he was white, brown, yellow, purple or green!!

JM2CW.

**Jay Cunningham** · 09-24-09, 19:40

I just deleted 20 posts from this thread for bickering and personal attacks - get it back on track. I don't want to see this nonsense again.

**Rider79** · 09-24-09, 20:13

Originally Posted by huklbrry

Thats generally why I get my news from factcheck.org, politifact.com ,or opencongress.org.
.....Just a guy who likes guns

I'm going to have to look a little to find it, but I believe it came from the NRA and another source. Factcheck.org is funded by some of the same leftwing groups that fund Sarah Brady and the Brady Bunch. It was back when factcheck.org was trying to counter the NRA's ads portraying Obama as anti-gun, but the only "evidence" they had to counter the NRA's statements was that the Obama campaign said they weren't true. So if you're a "guy who likes guns" you may want to reconsider the info you're getting from that source.