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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Question:

    If I put a Suppressor (silencer) on my SR-556, does it void the warranty?

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    The Magnuson- Moss Act does not require any seller or manufacturer of a consumer product to give a written warranty. It does provide that if a written warranty is given, it must be designated as “limited” or as “full” and set minimum standards for a “full” warranty. Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. has elected not to provide any written warranty, either “limited” or “full”, rather than to attempt to comply with the provisions of the Magnuson- Moss Act and the regulations issued thereunder. There are certain implied warranties under state law with respect to sales of consumer goods. As the extent and interpretation of these implied warranties varies from state to state, you should refer to your state statutes. Sturm, Ruger & Company wishes to assure its customers of its continued interest in providing service to owners of Ruger firearms.



    If that isn't a crappy, dance around the question I don't know what is.

    So here is what we know. Ruger does not want you to use a can on your AR and if you do and there is an issue, they will most likely not warranty it.


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    wow, that's a response worthy of a presidential debate.
    It's been awhile since I bought a ruger, i had no idea they didn't provide a written warranty. I guess you just hope they will cover you if you need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Question:

    If I put a Suppressor (silencer) on my SR-556, does it void the warranty?

    Thanks,

    Grant


    Response:

    The Magnuson- Moss Act does not require any seller or manufacturer of a consumer product to give a written warranty. It does provide that if a written warranty is given, it must be designated as “limited” or as “full” and set minimum standards for a “full” warranty. Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. has elected not to provide any written warranty, either “limited” or “full”, rather than to attempt to comply with the provisions of the Magnuson- Moss Act and the regulations issued thereunder. There are certain implied warranties under state law with respect to sales of consumer goods. As the extent and interpretation of these implied warranties varies from state to state, you should refer to your state statutes. Sturm, Ruger & Company wishes to assure its customers of its continued interest in providing service to owners of Ruger firearms.



    If that isn't a crappy, dance around the question I don't know what is.

    So here is what we know. Ruger does not want you to use a can on your AR and if you do and there is an issue, they will most likely not warranty it.


    C4
    Wow you assume all that from what the reply you posted above, rather broad assumption IMO(and yes I know you don't care about my opinion) . So here is what I know as I can & will only speak for myself, I will never be concerned with CS when dealing with Ruger.
    My one and only experience with Ruger's non warrenty was handled quick and to my satisfaction. One issue out of a minimum of 25 Ruger products over the years and how they handled it pretty much allows me to own their products with out worry. Let me guess Grant, your not a Ruger dealer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10MMGary View Post
    Wow you assume all that from what the reply you posted above, rather broad assumption IMO(and yes I know you don't care about my opinion) . So here is what I know as I can & will only speak for myself, I will never be concerned with CS when dealing with Ruger.
    My one and only experience with Ruger's non warrenty was handled quick and to my satisfaction. One issue out of a minimum of 25 Ruger products over the years and how they handled it pretty much allows me to own their products with out worry. Let me guess Grant, your not a Ruger dealer.
    If a company will not answer a simple question, then one HAS to always assume the worst. Stating some lawyer BS that really tells you NOTHING about what they will and will not do, does not sit well with me.

    I have owned and own several Ruger products. I am also a stocking dealer (sorry to burst your bubble). The difference between you and I is that I do not drink their kool aid and recognize BS when I see it.



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    seems to me to be cookie cut answers to questions about nfa items. i would image you would get a similar response if you asked about putting the upper on an m16 lower or whether it will work with rdias?

    for what it's worth, ruger is a publicly traded company, as a rule they tend to be a lot more cautious.

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    They have the same warranty policy as company that is high on "the chart".

    Due to the many different requirements imposed by federal and state laws on consumer warranties, no express warranty , either "full" or "limited" is offered with this product. Implied warranties, including the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, are limited in duration to one year from the date of purchase. We will not cover normal wear and tear or abuse. Some states do not allow limitations on how long an implied warranty lasts, so this limitation may not apply to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perna View Post
    They have the same warranty policy as company that is high on "the chart".

    Due to the many different requirements imposed by federal and state laws on consumer warranties, no express warranty , either "full" or "limited" is offered with this product. Implied warranties, including the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, are limited in duration to one year from the date of purchase. We will not cover normal wear and tear or abuse. Some states do not allow limitations on how long an implied warranty lasts, so this limitation may not apply to you.
    Don't know about that. I can call up several manufacturers and they will advise me that they will warranty it for anywhere from 5yrs to lifetime.




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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Got a response back from Ruger. I asked if it is ok for me to put a suppressor on their SR-556. Here is their response:




    At least they know that their barrel is threaded 1/2X28.



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    Although from how that response is worded, I can guarantee you that the CS monkey who responded has no clue what "1/2-28" means

    I'm sure that's not unique to Ruger though. Just struck me as funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmguy View Post
    Although from how that response is worded, I can guarantee you that the CS monkey who responded has no clue what "1/2-28" means

    I'm sure that's not unique to Ruger though. Just struck me as funny.
    That was my thought as well. He really isn't even sure what "part" of the gun is threaded to that spec.


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    The more and more I read about this gun the more I begin to realize that it seems like more of a novelty product then anything. A $2,000 dollar novelty product, but still.

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    Here's my take on the issue:

    Will the SR-556 fail because of a can. Doubtful.

    Grant, I own a SR-556, and I'm 99.9% my warranty is voided by buying stuff from you and putting it on there.

    IIRC, modifying anything on the firearm is an instant warranty-buster. Thusly, by installing the G&R selector switch, MOE Grip, and Enhanced Trigger Guard negated my warranty. I would bet that if you called them, and asked about installing a Geiselle trigger, they would say that it should NOT be installed.

    Here's the problem I see with the Ruger. Tons of AR newbies are going to get one. They are going to eventually put cans on them, and then experience increased component wear due to the installation thereof. Then, they will send the rifle in to Ruger for repair, and Ruger will tell 'em to fly a kite, since they've used aftermarket add-ons with the weapon. Then, said customer trips, because Ruger won't honour their "awesome" warranty. Then Ruger loses a customer forever, and he gets on a forum, and tells everyone what a piece of shit the SR-556 is, and how Ruger won't even honour the warranty. This then cuts into sales.

    Maybe I'm getting too hypothetical, but I believe Ruger is simply covering its own ass, in a cheesy, hokey, political fashion.

    P.S. If the treats I got from you, and dropped in the SR-556 haven't voided my warranty, I guarantee Seth's buffer sure as shit will.

    ETA: As far as the "gimmick/novelty" argument for Ruger's choice of operating system on the SR-556, stop and step back.

    ...wait...

    Ruger has absolutely ZERO experience with a DI weapon-system. If they'd have come out with a DI system, I would have steered so clear of it, it wouldn't have been funny. I can only assume Ruger chose the II system due to that being the only system they have any experience with whatsoever.

    If I'm coming across as a Kool-Aide sipper, I'm not. Hit the search button, and I hated this thing the instant it came out. The only Ruger product I was ever enamoured by, prior to the SR-556, was a .45LC Vaquero. I've never had a bad experience with a Ruger product, but I was wholly underwhelmed with the majority of the ones that I have owned or used.
    Last edited by Outlander Systems; 09-30-09 at 12:45.

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