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Thread: Ruger says NO to suppressor on their AR!

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    IIRC, modifying anything on the firearm is an instant warranty-buster. Thusly, by installing the G&R selector switch, MOE Grip, and Enhanced Trigger Guard negated my warranty
    Magnuson-Moss Act protects you from a manufacturer voiding a warranty because you changed something on a product, UNLESS what you added or changed caused the problem. IE they can not say the barrel failed because you added a trigger guard.

    It is the same Act that protects your automobile warranty, and the reason car makers can not force you to use Genuine manufacturer parts.

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    Don't know about that. I can call up several manufacturers and they will advise me that they will warranty it for anywhere from 5yrs to lifetime.
    The warranty statement I posted is from LMT. I dont know what LMT will tell you their warranty is, but since they do not have a written one it is basicly a year warranty.

    If a company claims to have a lifetime warranty but will not put it in writting, I question if they actually stand behind their product. I am not saying that LMT does not stand behind their products, but their warranty doesnt show it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perna View Post
    The warranty statement I posted is from LMT. I dont know what LMT will tell you their warranty is, but since they do not have a written one it is basicly a year warranty.

    If a company claims to have a lifetime warranty but will not put it in writting, I question if they actually stand behind their product. I am not saying that LMT does not stand behind their products, but their warranty doesnt show it.
    I actually look at the opposite. Any company that offers a lifetime warranty sends a red flag to me. These are the companies that also tend to tell you that you have voided your warranty because you used a certain type of ammo.


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    most lifetime warranties cover defects in manufacturing or materials i.e. something directly under the control of the manufacturer. i do not know of any manufacturer that will warranty their firearms if used with defective ammunition.

    from a logical standpoint defective ammunition would and does include reloaded ammunition and xm193 since that is rejected military ammo, it states so in the manual.

    applied to vehicles, if you put diesel in your gas tank, that's not the manufacturers fault - hence the little sticker under the gas flap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miale View Post
    most lifetime warranties cover defects in manufacturing or materials i.e. something directly under the control of the manufacturer. i do not know of any manufacturer that will warranty their firearms if used with defective ammunition.

    from a logical standpoint defective ammunition would and does include reloaded ammunition and xm193 since that is rejected military ammo, it states so in the manual.

    applied to vehicles, if you put diesel in your gas tank, that's not the manufacturers fault - hence the little sticker under the gas flap.
    No. Like you are shooting Wolf and your bolt breaks after 300rds and they tell you that they are not going to warranty the bolt because of the ammo.

    Wolf ammo is some of the softest shooting .223 available so that would have done it (FYI).


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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    No. Like you are shooting Wolf and your bolt breaks after 300rds and they tell you that they are not going to warranty the bolt because of the ammo.

    Wolf ammo is some of the softest shooting .223 available so that would have done it (FYI).


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    in that case it would be a defect in materials or manufacturing - it's pretty easy to determine why a bolt has broken, i know you used it as an example but i get what you are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM Engineer View Post
    They lost me at the non-freefloated barrel.
    They lost me at the Ruger name on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miale View Post
    in that case it would be a defect in materials or manufacturing - it's pretty easy to determine why a bolt has broken, i know you used it as an example but i get what you are saying.
    You are correct, but I have seen companies with "lifetime warranties" not cover that broken bolt.


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    Doesn't "canned heat" negate every firearms warranty on the planet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    You are correct, but I have seen companies with "lifetime warranties" not cover that broken bolt.


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    going off at a slight tangent here grant, but say one of your customer's has this problem; is it the attitude of the manufacture that you, the dealer, should correct it knowing that you don't want to piss off your customer?

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