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    Quote Originally Posted by Safetyhit View Post
    Not that I would ever leave a pin out after cleaning (), but just wondering which method worked. The pick or the shaking?
    I took a plastic clicker pen and pushed on the (digging up manual to find correct term) bolt locking lugs to rotate it enough that it turned and the bolt went forward. I was then able to disassemble the rifle and fix my moronic mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blhar15 View Post
    If you un-pin the upper from the lower, both front and rear pins, you should be able to slide it forward enough to remove it.
    Tried that but the rear pin hole on the upper wouldn't allow it to move forward.
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    I believe that he said that the bolt wouldn't go fully forward. That means that the bolt carrier probably was still partially to the rear which means you can't remove the upper.

    Quote Originally Posted by blhar15 View Post
    If you un-pin the upper from the lower, both front and rear pins, you should be able to slide it forward enough to remove it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I believe that he said that the bolt wouldn't go fully forward. That means that the bolt carrier probably was still partially to the rear which means you can't remove the upper.
    That too.
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    Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand why not installing the firing pin would cause it to not lock/unlock.

    I guess I never realized the cam pin actually interfered with the firing pin.
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    The firing pin passes through the cam pin. If the firing pin is missing and you install the BCG the cam pin can turn freely and not within the track as it is designed.

    Quote Originally Posted by 28_days View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand why not installing the firing pin would cause it to not lock/unlock.

    I guess I never realized the cam pin actually interfered with the firing pin.



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    I'm going to have to try this just to say I've done it.
    Maybe be tomorrow's afternoon project.
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    I'm new to the AR platform and let's hope I don't do the same.

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    I have seen this many times. A good method of prevention is to shake the bolt carrier group prior to inserting it into the weapon. This will usually let you know if it is going to stay in.

    Also, be careful before to ensure the firing pin is all the way in before you insert the firing pin retaining pin, if you don't, the firing pin can still fall out.

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    I think the best way to prevent these things from happening, is to simply read the Operators Manual. Become familiar with the correct nomenclature of the individual parts, their purpose, and how they interact with each other.

    As mentioned above, if you are not completely comfortable with the disassembly/reassembly and function check of the weapon, without having to consult the Operators Manual, then have the manual open in front of you, so that you can reference to it occasionally to prevent making a mistake.

    There are the little tricks like we all learned in Basic Training, like inserting the Firing Pin Retaining Pin, then shaking the bolt to ensure the Firing Pin does not fly out. Or pushing the bolt into the carrier, then flipping the carrier to extend the bolt. These are all things I still do to this day out of habit.

    But again, the best way to prevent these things from happening, is to simply read and become familiar with the Operators Manual.
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