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    Thanks for the tip about the cyalum sticks. I got the ACOG because it is a jack of all trades, and that there were no electronics to mess with. If i later feel the need for a dedicated CQB sight, i will probably put a MRDS at the 1:30 position on my VTac rail.



    The only other question I have is about any specific info on the horseshoe reticle and how to best use it, as trijicon seems to be slow to publish tech data on thier new stuff. I'm basically looking for a breakdown on how to most effectively use all the various elements of the Hdot reticle and estimating range with it as well as using the windage aspect of the reticle aswell.

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    I found this a little while ago.

    http://www.grsc.com/combatriflescope.php

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    What difference does it make if you can't see it in total darkness? You won't be able to determine what you're shooting at either.

    When you light 'em up with white light, you won't be able to see the reticule either as you'll get enough splash from the light to make it useless. If, (big bunch of if's) you were in total darkness, if there was a bad guy, if you lit him up with white, put the bugger in the view of your aiming device... and if you have good form to begin with, you'll be on target at close ranges. That's a whole lotta if!

    (Side note: I read somewhere once that Pirates didn't wear an eyepatch because they didn't have an eye, but to keep one eye dark ready at all times. Don't know if that's true, but maybe we should make a run of "tactical eyepatches" JUUUUUST KIDDING)
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    Here's a tip: go in your bathroom after 2100 hours with your rifle and ACOG, turn off the light, look through your ACOG. There's your answer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by An Undocumented Worker View Post
    I just got a TA-11H and am wondering how bright (relatively speaking) the reticle should appear in total darkness. The reticle doesn't seem to have nearly the same level of apparent brightness as say the nightsights I just put on my CZ.
    The reticle will be MUCH dimmer than when you have direct light coming into it.

    Remember that it takes 30 minutes for your eyes to adjust to darkness. So taking your ACOG into the closet and looking at it, won't give you an accurate idea of how bright it is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sff70 View Post
    That's one of my issues with the ACOG . . .

    I'm not going to be able to wait for my eyes to adjust when going from a bright environment into a darkened environment. No time outs when going after bad guys.
    First your eyes adjust automatically as darkness progresses, the "30 minutes" or whatever is the time it takes from being in a brightly lit indoors and then going outside in low-light/night.

    Second it doesn't really matter which optic you use, your eyes still have to adjust to reach their maximum effectiveness.

    No there aren't any timeouts but allowing your eyes to adjust isn't specific to the ACOG. Seeing the reticle is all well and good but if you can't see the bad guy what difference does an RDS make?
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    Using a 3X-4X ACOG for home defense/CQB is really not a good choice. If you are using this optic on your "Go To Gun" then learn how to point shoot.



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    Just an observation....in the dark the TA31FG is much brighter than the TA31F. You can see the fiber optic very lightly "glowing" in the dark.

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    I have heard from more than one military person that the soldiers point shot their M4s up close because they have the TA31s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Using a 3X-4X ACOG for home defense/CQB is really not a good choice. If you are using this optic on your "Go To Gun" then learn how to point shoot.



    C4
    Thats kinda the idea behind the bindon aiming concept. As for home defense, thats what the shotgun is for.

    As stated earlier I am thinking about placing a mini red dot at the 1:30 position on my fore rail, which will take care of the cqb stuff

    In all reality though the Acog is going to be perfect for hunting coyote, squirrel, and racoons in the wooded North Georgia forests, rarely do you get a shot over 200 yards, if even 100 yds round here.

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