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    Quote Originally Posted by XCRFan View Post
    Thanks, however, I am in Southeast Virginia. I like CO though. Beautiful country.
    There are a lot of active members in VA who I'm sure would be happy to tell you whether or not it's you or the gun that is broken.

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    I recently installed an FSC556 compensator from PWS and the ST-T2 buffer from Spike's Tactical on my M&P 15X. The weapon recoil seems smoother, especially when the bolt locks back. My follow up rounds are staying closer together as well. I'm new to the AR platform, but I feel pretty confident that these were both solid upgrades to this weapon. Excellent customer service also from both businesses, by the way!

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    Just a silly question, but what is your barrel chambered for? Is it possible you're shooting 5.56N spec ammo in a .223 chamber? That would definitely result in your carbine acting overgassed.

    And yes, the springs included in many aftermarket buttstocks are junk. I learned this the hard way with one of my 6.8s. Spring length was down to minimum spec after ~500rds and was causing functional issues. Replaced it with a SSS spring and problems went away.

    FA carriers are the way to go in a carbine - even use 'em in mid-length gas systems. That extra mass reduces the velocity of the bolt carrier during the operating cycle, resulting in a smoother recoil impulse.

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    OP- Does the extractor rip through the case rim, or any FTE's, or any pull marks on the spent cases?

    If so, possibly overgassed and timing thrown off resulting in buffer slamming into end of tube.

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    This all sounds pretty odd to me.

    In your first post you stated "Std. A2 FH/Comp."

    So is this a standard flash hider that looks like this?


    I shot a friends Bushmaster "M4" that had an aftermarket compensator on it. That was the loudest, most uncomfortable AR I have ever shot. I had ear protection but they were ringing when I was done with ten rounds.
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    Have you considered getting rid of the DTI upper and purchase something better made? Rather than spend $100 here and there to try and diagnose the problem, you could have a quality upper like BCM that you know won't give you any problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba FAL View Post
    Just a silly question, but what is your barrel chambered for? Is it possible you're shooting 5.56N spec ammo in a .223 chamber? That would definitely result in your carbine acting overgassed.

    And yes, the springs included in many aftermarket buttstocks are junk. I learned this the hard way with one of my 6.8s. Spring length was down to minimum spec after ~500rds and was causing functional issues. Replaced it with a SSS spring and problems went away.

    FA carriers are the way to go in a carbine - even use 'em in mid-length gas systems. That extra mass reduces the velocity of the bolt carrier during the operating cycle, resulting in a smoother recoil impulse.
    The bbl is chambered and stamped 5.56 NATO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6933 View Post
    OP- Does the extractor rip through the case rim, or any FTE's, or any pull marks on the spent cases?

    If so, possibly overgassed and timing thrown off resulting in buffer slamming into end of tube.
    I have never had any FTFs, FTE, misfires, or anything but perfect functioning. I may just put her in the safe for a few months and then buy a Noveske complete N4 upper. Or something equal to it.

    As far pull marks, I am not sure as I have not saved any brass. I find it easier and just as cost effective to buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarshallDodge View Post
    This all sounds pretty odd to me.

    In your first post you stated "Std. A2 FH/Comp."

    So is this a standard flash hider that looks like this?


    I shot a friends Bushmaster "M4" that had an aftermarket compensator on it. That was the loudest, most uncomfortable AR I have ever shot. I had ear protection but they were ringing when I was done with ten rounds.
    Yes that is the same FH I had on it when I posted. I have since switched it out with an extra standard Phantom FH. Not the phantom 5c2. I have not fired the weapon since installing the new FH. I do not anticipate much difference.

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    XCRFan,

    Markings mean nothing unless they come from a known and trusted manufacturer. Other companies have marked theirs 5.56 as well only to be proven they are not.

    I think that the saying "You can lead a horse to water, but....." applies here.

    Quote Originally Posted by XCRFan View Post
    The bbl is chambered and stamped 5.56 NATO.



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