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Thread: Noveske N4 Recce or KAC SR15

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    I'd personally go for the Noveske low profile w/ MUR upper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeep297 View Post
    -KAC manufacturers many of their own parts (including the Sopmod) whereas Noveske outsources everything but the barrel
    Technically, Noveske doesn't make their barrels. FN does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM Engineer View Post
    My SR-15 SOPMOD stock is marked "LMT" like every other SOPMOD stock I've ever seen. Does KAC really make them?
    Not that I have ever heard. LMT has the rights to the SOPMOD.

    ETA--I stand corrected from post below me.
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    Belmot and Jeep are correct, KAC is making their own sopmods under LMT license. Heard it right from 3 himself. Kinda cool.

    My .2, KAC, they set the current standard.

    -T

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    Between the two....KAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlantaguns View Post
    Technically, Noveske doesn't make their barrels. FN does.


    You mean the N4 barrel blanks?
    Last edited by G34Shooter; 12-05-09 at 23:57.

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    I chose to go with Noveske since the parts are fairly standardized, including the BCG. There are thousands of BCGs I could use with my Noveske within an easy drive of my house. The KAC BCG is proprietary, and if yours breaks during a time of crisis you will not find a replacement easily. Otherwise, if you are not considering your AR for a survival weapon, this point is moot. I don't want to own too many rifles so went with the most flexible system for repair issues.

    Also, for what its worth, both Costa and Haley have shot my Noveske/Magpul limited RECCE and liked it very much. They both said there would be no point in buying a KAC of the same length. I was on the verge of buying a KAC before they told me that.
    Last edited by Ligament; 12-06-09 at 01:42.

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    In a Noveske barrel thread posted here back in 2-13-08, a question about the longevity of the Noveske N4 CHF chrome lined barrels was asked to Grant of G&R Tactical . His reply was, probably between 60,000-80,000 rounds, I think. And to put that into perspective dollar wise back then, it was about $28,000 worth of ammo.
    Last edited by Biggy; 12-06-09 at 02:53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    What makes you say that? Any tests to back this up?
    From Noveske's web sight: Made of Mil Spec M249 Machine Gun barrel steel, with heavy M249 Chrome Lining, (appx. 2 times as thick as an M4 or M16)

    With all do respect to Larry Vickers I tend to take people like him, and their advice on products with a grain of salt because they are getting paid to push products. You don't have to use the ambi controls at all. The pattern is still the same for the "standard" parts. You could even sell the lower, and get a standard KAC lower to keep everything one brand.
    I've heard him say the same thing, but I believe he was referring to muscle memory and having to use another unit's AR platform or battlefield pickup, which won't have the ambi controls. Combat practicality/necessity VS a modded niche. In the heat of a fire fight, you may get smoked, if you have to fumble with the fire controls of your weapon system. The same can be said for the BAD lever, left side ejecting ARs or RediMags, as well.
    Last edited by RogerinTPA; 12-06-09 at 09:25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post

    With all do respect to Larry Vickers I tend to take people like him, and their advice on products with a grain of salt because they are getting paid to push products.
    You are sorely mistaken about LAV. He is a straight shooter. Period. Yes, he gets paid from various companies for his opinion, designs and endorsements, but that doesn't mean that he wont shoot straight with you on a competitors product. He also would never represent a company just for money if he didn't believe in their product, company and service to the customer.

    There are very few people who know weapons of ALL kinds like LAV. He can teach you about a STG44, K98, AK's, 1911's, or any other platform made. Not only can he tell you about them, he can break down the operating system and hand you a blue print...

    Don't judge a book by its cover, spend some time with him and you will see what I mean...

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