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Thread: Could This Be A Potential B.A.D. Issue?

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    Could This Be A Potential B.A.D. Issue?

    1. Magazine is out of ammo, bolt locks back
    2. New mag is inserted
    3. Trigger finger goes to release bolt with the B.A.D.
    4. Bolt is released forward
    5. However, under stress, the finger slips on the B.A.D.
    6. As rifle goes into battery, finger hits trigger simultaneously or directly afterward resulting in an A.D.

    How probable do you think this situation is?

    On the other side of the coin, if the bolt catch is used, the trigger finger can be kept free of the trigger until ready to fire.
    Last edited by whiterabbit05; 10-31-09 at 21:09.

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    IMO after using my BAD at the range, it could be possible but not likely. I'm sure if you were forceful with the situation you are describing it could happen. But after manipulating mine, I doubt I could do an A.D.
    Last edited by Ak44; 10-31-09 at 21:05.
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    Unless you're totally fumble fingered, not very likely. Still, after spending 11 years managing/running the local public shooting range, believe me, anything is possible.

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    Indeed, anything is possible.
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    So far I've seen only one report of ND with finger slipping off B.A.D. during a reload. Anything is possible, the real question is what's the likelihood.

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    Do you worry about an ND during an administrative reload?
    Same problem, you have a live round in the chamber, hit the mag release, finger slips or something and you bang onto the trigger.
    I'd practice with it, not worry about it too much and keep that muzzle pointed where you need to.
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    Furthermore, if you practice firearm safety, an ND will go down range and not do any harm at all. Practice at home with NO live ammo and get yourself to the point of failure. As fast as humanly possible. Go the range and do it some more.
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    Not sure about the BAD, but my Phase 5 stuck out on an empty chamber where I only had to swipe it down. I did not have to stick my finger in the trigger guard. I thought the BAD was made the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiterabbit05 View Post
    1. Magazine is out of ammo, bolt locks back
    2. New mag is inserted
    3. Trigger finger goes to release bolt with the B.A.D.
    4. Bolt is released forward
    5. However, under stress, the finger slips on the B.A.D.
    6. As rifle goes into battery, finger hits trigger simultaneously or directly afterward resulting in an A.D.

    How probable do you think this situation is?

    On the other side of the coin, if the bolt catch is used, the trigger finger can be kept free of the trigger until ready to fire.
    Possible but not probable. You should be practicing doing this with an unloaded gun. Practice at half speed. Slowly bring up your speed. Then at the range practice it with live ammo again slow and then full speed. You should know your own trigger. Also the BAD lever is pressed sideways, you're trigger is pressed rearward. If you're really anal and feel safer flip the safety on before releasing the empty magazine.
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    Keep your finger straight and use the side of your finger instead of the tip.

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