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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    So you're saying it's ears safe on a 10.5" upper?
    I don't know about that. It was originally posted you could only run them 14.5" barrels or longer. I assumed there was a mechanical reason for that and thats why I posted Grant is running his on a 10.5". Mechanically its safe from what he says but I don't know about ears safe. Its definately still gonna be queiter than nothing at all, especially in a residence or structure and thats what I'm loking for, something to knock the edge off for my teammates and still have a VERY short OAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K9222 View Post
    I don't know about that. It was originally posted you could only run them 14.5" barrels or longer. I assumed there was a mechanical reason for that and thats why I posted Grant is running his on a 10.5". Mechanically its safe from what he says but I don't know about ears safe. Its definately still gonna be queiter than nothing at all, especially in a residence or structure and thats what I'm loking for, something to knock the edge off for my teammates and still have a VERY short OAL.
    I believe in Grant's post about his DD SBR build that sports this mini can, he notes the 10.5" Noveske N4 barrel has a custom gas port for suppressed only shooting. I take that to mean the gas port hole diameter is significantly smaller than on a regular 10.5" barrel and thus not "overpressuring" gas tube and abusing the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonAAC View Post
    Since sound and flash are the 2 main purposes of a can, I don't see these as worth it in any way...
    And if they run half as dirty as a real silencer, the whole idea would be totally stupid.

    BUT... gun idiots will buy anything miniture regardless of the useless nature of the item.... .380 pistols.. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    And if they run half as dirty as a real silencer, the whole idea would be totally stupid.

    BUT... gun idiots will buy anything miniture regardless of the useless nature of the item.... .380 pistols.. etc.
    Would rather have a .380 then nothing at all. Just like a .380 I think it will have it's place. Would I rather have a larger suppressor that has more sound reduction..yes but it will be at the expense of OAL and weight. I think they will have their place if they are priced fairly. Hopefully they will be a little cheaper considering less material to produce. Grant said they work better then you think they would so, but to each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darin Reiss View Post
    I believe in Grant's post about his DD SBR build that sports this mini can, he notes the 10.5" Noveske N4 barrel has a custom gas port for suppressed only shooting. I take that to mean the gas port hole diameter is significantly smaller than on a regular 10.5" barrel and thus not "overpressuring" gas tube and abusing the gun.

    Darin Reiss
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    If I get one I will run it on my 10.5" Noveske switchblock, which on its suppressed setting will mimick running a smaller gas port all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K9222 View Post
    Would rather have a .380 then nothing at all. Just like a .380 I think it will have it's place. Would I rather have a larger suppressor that has more sound reduction..yes but it will be at the expense of OAL and weight. I think they will have their place if they are priced fairly. Hopefully they will be a little cheaper considering less material to produce. Grant said they work better then you think they would so, but to each their own.
    True, these (and most firearms-related products) have their niche. if it works for you, go for it. If these are priced very close to their full-size counterparts, doesn't seem worth it to the average shooter.

    PS- this is not about Surefire's minis only, it's more about all tiny rifle cans- To get hearing safe, you only add 1.5" and 3.1 oz... I don't see that impacting anything except your hearing. Given the hoops that CIV have to go through, I would ask why?

    ALL THAT SAID, if you want one- do it! It's not like in the average day most of us NEED a quarter of the things we want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonAAC View Post
    True, these (and most firearms-related products) have their niche. if it works for you, go for it. If these are priced very close to their full-size counterparts, doesn't seem worth it to the average shooter.

    PS- this is not about Surefire's minis only, it's more about all tiny rifle cans- To get hearing safe, you only add 1.5" and 3.1 oz... I don't see that impacting anything except your hearing. Given the hoops that CIV have to go through, I would ask why?

    ALL THAT SAID, if you want one- do it! It's not like in the average day most of us NEED a quarter of the things we want.
    Here is my comment from silencerresearch.com ( the topic was with regards to SBRs and these "mini" suppressors )

    "I understand the want to keep it shorter, but I would still recommend a full length suppressor.

    With a shorter suppressor model you can keep the overall length shorter, but there will be a significantly reduced signature suppression capability, both sound and flash wise.

    I see the "mini" suppressors more useful on 14.5-16" barrels, where you want to minimize the added length and the suppressors will be capable of better suppression.

    Take Care!

    Tuukka Jokinen
    Ase Utra sound suppressors"

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    SF micro

    Shot with a guy this weekend that ran a Mini for portions of the course (low light portions).
    The micro did a good job at both flash and noise reduction. I can't remember is he was running a 10.5 or 12.5 upper.
    Last edited by Fireguy275; 04-30-10 at 17:04.
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    Any can that requires me to wear ear pro is a complete waste IMO.

    I'm a student of Grossman's On Combat and don't give a second thought to running an 11.5" unsupressed carbean for home defense.

    But if people can find a reason to buy it, that's cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Any can that requires me to wear ear pro is a complete waste IMO.
    Suppressed rifle fire without hearing protection is still dangerous.

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