Remington 700 build, what do you think?

[texas12]

Here’s what my build will entail.

- Remington 700 SPS 20” Barrel. Cut to 18.5” and threaded to fit
Surefire CA762SSAL/RE adapter for Surefire FA762SS suppressor.
- McMillan A1-3 (FDE) stock
- PRI 7' Full 1913 Railed Base for Remington 700 SA
- PRI 30mm Standard Rings
- Trijicon AccuPoint TR23-2 Mil-Dot w/Amber dot 30mm Tube 5-20x 50mm

I’m somewhat new to precision shooting, more of an AR junkie. I’d Love some input.

[crossgun]

Ok here are my thoughts.

I think the Remington will work out great for you especially cut and fitted with the SF. Should do anything you want to 800 yards. You’re good with the McMillian as well. Don’t rule out Manners. I would go with the A3 over the A2 as I like the fact that it’s a little thinner or shallower at the front. Obviously you will want to get it bedded for you action. If it were I would run Badger Detachable Bottom Metal and AI mags as well. No it’s not necessary but either is the SF can and break. The mag system is very fast and convenient especially if you think you will ever shoot any sniper matches.

The PRI stuff is good I just prefer the Badgers as they are time tested and the standard.

The question I do have is why the Trijicon? What do you think they bring to the party? I would run a Nightforce 3.5-15x50 on the rig you’re describing with either the NP-R2 reticle or better yet the NP-R1 which I like more as it allows me to call my shots and correct a little more accurate. The Trijicon scope line is rather new and for that money you could buy a used Nightforce.

Now for the million dollar question. Why MILS? My assumption is as a shooter your whole scope and red dot life has been in MOA not MILS. Why learn another somewhat confusing system? The MIL guys are going to argue but they know and really understand it. 1MOA is about, 1"@100 and 10" @1000. Even 5" @500.
1 MIL is 3.6"@100 and 36" @ 1000. Its 7.2"@200. See where I am going with this? Most scopes will be 1/4" clicks at 100 in MOA and 0.36" @ 100 in MILS. I think that most of us are more inclined to the math of MOA and have more experience with it. That’s not to say MILS are bad but you really need to understand it. No matter what you do make sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that the adjustments match the reticle spacing. In other words go MOA with MOA adjustments or MILS/MILS.

You’re heading in the right direction. Good action, good stock with bedding job and even better glass will allow you to do just about whatever you want.

You may want to define the role of this rifle a little more so that you can make some more long term determinations. What will you really use it for?

[texas12]

Thanks for all the input I do appreciate it. It's always nice to get feedback from someone who knows what their talking about and doesn’t mind helping someone out. Here's my updated list

- Remington 700 SPS 20” Barrel. Threaded to fit
Surefire MB762SSAL/RE adapter.(keeping the barrel to 20 inches after
talking to my gunsmith)

- McMillan A3 (FDE) stock w/ saddle type cheek piece

- PRI 7' Full 1913 Railed Base for Remington 700 SA (20moa cant)

- PRI 30mm Standard Rings

- Leopold Mark 4 3.5-10x40mm LR/T M3
(I have pervious experience and knowledge of the MIL-dot system so I'm sticking with. But I originally wanted to get the accupoint because I had an employee discount through trijicon but today had an employee discount faxed to me by Leopold so I’m going with the mark 4 LR/T m3 in Mil-Dot.)

As for the question to how I’m going to deploy my rifle. I’m planning on attending some precision shooting courses and just generally get involved in long range shooting. Once again thanks for the help.

[mattjmcd]

Ok here are my thoughts.





Now for the million dollar question. Why MILS? My assumption is as a shooter your whole scope and red dot life has been in MOA not MILS. Why learn another somewhat confusing system? The MIL guys are going to argue but they know and really understand it. 1MOA is about, 1"@100 and 10" @1000. Even 5" @500.
1 MIL is 3.6"@100 and 36" @ 1000. Its 7.2"@200. See where I am going with this? Most scopes will be 1/4" clicks at 100 in MOA and 0.36" @ 100 in MILS. I think that most of us are more inclined to the math of MOA and have more experience with it. That’s not to say MILS are bad but you really need to understand it. No matter what you do make sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that the adjustments match the reticle spacing. In other words go MOA with MOA adjustments or MILS/MILS.

This is interesting to me too, since I am sloooowly making the leap into PR shooting. I am into the mental math of the MOA, too. I am looking at MIL scopes b/c I ASSume that is what my future training will be based upon, but who knows?

Do you suggest a particular scope set up for MOA/MOA?

[carbinero]

I am working on something like this, too.

If you don't have a detachable mag, wouldn't a 2-piece base be easier for loading?

[Linus]

Your build list looks good but why cut the barrel down so short? What's the max distance you plan on shooting? That scope might be overkill due to the fact that the shorter barrel will limit you to ~800yds or less.

[ZDL]

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[a1fabweld]

I have a SPS Tactical in .308. It's outfitted with a HSP police stock, Jewell trigger, Warne 20moa base, Warne rings, HSP DBM conversion & a Falcon Menace 4-14x44 FFP scope. Shooting 175 grn FGMM, it takes over 43 moa of adjustment to hit paper @ 1k. The bullet runs out of steam just after 900yds & goes subsonic. I'm going to load some 155 grn bullets soon to see if I can get to 1k with them. If not, I'm gonna have to upgrade to a longer barrel to reach my goal of 1k shooting. Just something to think about with your short barrel if you plan on shooting past 800 yds like previously mentioned.

[MOA]

There are many articles that show that most commercial 308 hits full velocity from a 20" barrel. You can go to Tac-ops web page and read up. If you hand load with slower powders thats not true either, but Fed GMM does get full speed out of 20". Also when you add a supressor onto a 18" barrel you still end up with like 24" of length to drag around and swing into postion and wrestle with. Shorter barrels also tend to have less deflection or droop with the same number of rounds as a same profile but longer barrel.

[BiggLee71]

Looks good so far except one thing. Go Nightforce for optics. I hear Leupy's been having QC problems as of late. Check out Sniper Hide and Snipers Central to read up on it and to also answer any PR questions you may have.