Magpul AFG Added More Pics/Info

[Slippers]

THATS IT! I just got done peaking at them. Exactly what I am going to run. Perfect for an AFG and a light. Just enough but not to much. Now I just need to figure out what the difference is other than price in the 9.5 Lite and M4 models. I owe you guys big time. Ahhh, now I will be able to sleep.

Ky Cop

M4 vs Lite is how they mount. M4 has the round ring, and breaks the rail between the upper receiver and the hand rail. Looks kind of like the Larue rails.

The Lite has a continuous rail, meaning it mounts flush to the upper receiver, and is secured slightly different, using a bracket held in place with a special barrel nut, which then is attached to the rail with 6 socket cap allen screws.

Weight, according to rob_s chart is identical, so go with the one you like the looks of would be my advice.

[Volucris]

being a dumb ass im sorry

[chadbag]

Interesting. I have yet to see a Magpul product with excess flashing on it, let alone all over it. I don't doubt that it has happened. I just have never seen it. If you have such a product, I would report it to Magpul. They probably would like to get the feedback so they can improve their QC

[teufeldog]

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Magpul has gotten to the point where they could make whatever they want, make up some pseudo-intelligent reasons for the product's superiority, charge at least $30 for it, and sell it to the masses of commandos out there despite it being poorly molded and covered with flashings like the MIAD and MBUIS I bought from them.

Seriously, what does Magpul make that's deserving of all the hype?

Wow ... and this being your first post. Not only are you saying that Magpul gives no thought to the products they bring to market, but it is quite bold of you to slight "the masses" for thinking Magpul's gear is good-to-go.

[NickB]

I love the descriptions Magpul is using for this. This is a pretty silly design. It's placing the weight of the front end of the weapon entirely on the fingers which are going to fatigue quickly compared to a standard VFG.

Magpul has gotten to the point where they could make whatever they want, make up some pseudo-intelligent reasons for the product's superiority, charge at least $30 for it, and sell it to the masses of commandos out there despite it being poorly molded and covered with flashings like the MIAD and MBUIS I bought from them.

Seriously, what does Magpul make that's deserving of all the hype? Everything I've bought or tried of theirs was poorly molded save their PMAGs and had flashings everywhere. I could go on and on but I think I might stir the hive up enough just by questioning their products to begin with.

Hopefully this doesn't result in a ban for me. I know on arfcom, the brown nosing is so strong for some companies you get banned for knocking on them no matter how legitimate the argument. I get the impression this forum prides in being far more tolerant.

Good first post. I think you should follow it up with photos of Magpul products with excessive flashing. If something truly slipped through our quality control we would be happy to replace the product with a return shipping label for the blemished item.

[CLHC]

I love the descriptions Magpul is using for this. This is a pretty silly design. It's placing the weight of the front end of the weapon entirely on the fingers which are going to fatigue quickly compared to a standard VFG.

Magpul has gotten to the point where they could make whatever they want, make up some pseudo-intelligent reasons for the product's superiority, charge at least $30 for it, and sell it to the masses of commandos out there despite it being poorly molded and covered with flashings like the MIAD and MBUIS I bought from them.

Seriously, what does Magpul make that's deserving of all the hype? Everything I've bought or tried of theirs was poorly molded save their PMAGs and had flashings everywhere.

Found this in the other thread in the Industry Forums/Manufacturers/Magpul.

In light of several comments floating around the web on different forums reference the AFG I'm tossing the below up in a few places.


Clarification;

Let me make it perfectly clear. Our intent is not to replace your VFG with an AFG. Our intent is to bring a new concept to market, push the boundaries of design and fill a void in the forward grip market. Some might argue that we're creating the "void" and this is all a marketing hype product. Have we ever done that with any product? We will continue to stand by our products and the theories behind them.

Fan Boys;

We have fan boys and hey, hats off, we love them. But don't ever think we build products for the FB's. They want the best products money can buy just like Mil, LE, casual shooters and competition shooters. Can you blame them? We build real world, high quality, boundary pushing kit period. No hype, no BS.

[SWATcop556]

I love the descriptions Magpul is using for this. This is a pretty silly design. It's placing the weight of the front end of the weapon entirely on the fingers which are going to fatigue quickly compared to a standard VFG.

Magpul has gotten to the point where they could make whatever they want, make up some pseudo-intelligent reasons for the product's superiority, charge at least $30 for it, and sell it to the masses of commandos out there despite it being poorly molded and covered with flashings like the MIAD and MBUIS I bought from them.

Seriously, what does Magpul make that's deserving of all the hype? Everything I've bought or tried of theirs was poorly molded save their PMAGs and had flashings everywhere. I could go on and on but I think I might stir the hive up enough just by questioning their products to begin with.

Hopefully this doesn't result in a ban for me. I know on arfcom, the brown nosing is so strong for some companies you get banned for knocking on them no matter how legitimate the argument. I get the impression this forum prides in being far more tolerant.

You will not be banned for honest observations, however yours have been backed up with no proof, other than your claims of defective products. We also have a rule that you need to contact Magpul about your issues first before posting. Magpul has some of the best CS in the business and will fix and product defects you have (perceived or real) if you give them a chance.

If the new AFG works for you, great. If not, then you know what does work for you. They put a lot of R&D into their products and don't just throw something out there for a buck.

I would like to see pics of the products you have with the defects and flashings. But in another thread so not to hijack, just so we know the source is legit.

Welcome to M4C and yes we pride ourselves in being tolerant, however, bullshit and unsubstantiated claims about a respected company does not fly.

[ryanm]

I love the descriptions Magpul is using for this. This is a pretty silly design. It's placing the weight of the front end of the weapon entirely on the fingers which are going to fatigue quickly compared to a standard VFG.

Magpul has gotten to the point where they could make whatever they want, make up some pseudo-intelligent reasons for the product's superiority, charge at least $30 for it, and sell it to the masses of commandos out there despite it being poorly molded and covered with flashings like the MIAD and MBUIS I bought from them.

Seriously, what does Magpul make that's deserving of all the hype? Everything I've bought or tried of theirs was poorly molded save their PMAGs and had flashings everywhere. I could go on and on but I think I might stir the hive up enough just by questioning their products to begin with.

Hopefully this doesn't result in a ban for me. I know on arfcom, the brown nosing is so strong for some companies you get banned for knocking on them no matter how legitimate the argument. I get the impression this forum prides in being far more tolerant.

Tolerant is one thing, but your blatantly out of line on this. Not only are you calling out a company that does make a good product, but your essentially calling everyone who uses Magpul a brown noser if they step up to challenge your claims.

You haven't used an AFG yet, but you’re spinning your opinion here as if you hold a degree in kinesthetics and you’re coming down on a product that you've never held in your hands.

If you are going to come to this forum bashing a product, you had better have documented proof to everything you say. That is the difference between M4C and TOS. Your BS diatribe does not count.

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[Volucris]

being a dumb ass im sorry

[NickB]

being a dumb ass im sorry

Please send me a list of the Magpul products you own that you feel are unacceptable (model and color), and we will send you replacements along with a return shipping label. Our production engineers have ridiculous QC guidelines even by my own personal standards, but no one is perfect - if we screwed up, we'll make it right.

Let me know.