Micro vs M4 dot size - play a guess game

**YVK** · 12-05-09, 20:21

Setup

Now figure which dot belongs to which sight

Edited to clarify: the middle pic has all 4 sights at max intensity, first and third - max-1 intensity. My photo skills are, obviously, lacking and I couldn't get lower intenisties to come out well.

**Ak44** · 12-05-09, 21:03

umm....

**MisterWilson** · 12-05-09, 23:05

.....

**YVK** · 12-05-09, 23:14

Originally Posted by MisterWilson

I'll see your nonsensical ridiculous post ...

I do try not to post anyting nonsensical or ridiculous.

The purpose of my post is to challenge a failrly common debate "2 MOA dot vs. 4 MOA dot" and show that you can't really see the difference between the two most of the time. I could put just one of each there, but two of each make the point even better.

**Harv** · 12-05-09, 23:46

For starters, there is very few times when you need to crank up the brightness on a RDS.

**YVK** · 12-05-09, 23:55

Originally Posted by Harv

For starters, there is very few times when you need to crank up the brightness on a RDS.

True. I've never used either on max. Use of those settings for this "demonstration" is primarily due to lack of my photographic skills. The "second to max settings" is what I usually end up using in bright sunlight and light-colored terrain.

Regardless, these photos do illustrate what I wanted to show.

**YVK** · 12-06-09, 13:17

Since this post doesn't seem to present much interest, I'll name the dots. From top to bottom:

- 2 MOA dot of M4s that is closest to eye/camera ( LaRue mount)
- 2 MOA dot of M4s in the middle (OEM mount)
- 4 MOA (or whatever the true size) dot of Micro T-1 that is farther away from eye (KAC mount)
- 4 MOA dot of "suspended" Micro T-1.

I was hoping to show that often-debated difference between 2 and 4 MOA dots is generally a moot point. There is maybe one situation where I can tease it out. The distance between eye and optic affects perception of dot's size to a much higher degree.