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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutshot John View Post
    I disagree, as real life it might have ended differently, but it was a movie and Eastwood was trying to tell HIS story. It might not have been the story some here would have written but it was far more powerful this way, he didn't want to remake Unforgiven.

    As a shining example of cinematic art, and that's clearly what it was, the movie couldn't have ended any other way.

    If Kowalski had gone down shooting, they would have killed him, then they would have come after the boy and his family.

    He laid down his life for a buddy. He viewed it as war and he chose a strategic rather than tactical victory.
    Very well put and I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutshot John View Post
    I disagree, as real life it might have ended differently, but it was a movie and Eastwood was trying to tell HIS story. It might not have been the story some here would have written but it was far more powerful this way, he didn't want to remake Unforgiven.

    As a shining example of cinematic art, and that's clearly what it was, the movie couldn't have ended any other way.

    If Kowalski had gone down shooting, they would have killed him, then they would have come after the boy and his family.

    He laid down his life for a buddy. He viewed it as war and he chose a strategic rather than tactical victory.
    Very well stated GSJ, totally nailed it.
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    remember he had some medical tests come in, maybe he had cancer or some disease and he was going to die anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutshot John View Post
    I disagree, as real life it might have ended differently, but it was a movie and Eastwood was trying to tell HIS story. It might not have been the story some here would have written but it was far more powerful this way, he didn't want to remake Unforgiven.

    As a shining example of cinematic art, and that's clearly what it was, the movie couldn't have ended any other way.

    If Kowalski had gone down shooting, they would have killed him, then they would have come after the boy and his family.

    He laid down his life for a buddy. He viewed it as war and he chose a strategic rather than tactical victory.
    Exactly right. He laid down his life for a friend. He new he was not going to live long, and he wanted to give something to "Toad" that he was unable to give to his sons. Not only did he give him a bright future, but I think he had a more meaningful relationship over a short time with Toad than he did with his adult sons.

    The movie was simple increadible. I honestly think it was one of the best movies of all time. From the humor or his racist one liners it takes you into a real dark place and ultimatly the hero's death. Its hard to find a movie these days that actualy takes you somewhere, makes you fallow and brings you to a totaly unespcted place in the end.

    I was so pissed it got totaly snubbed at the Oscars, but I guess those PC #^@&^$% in Hollywood cant deal with a few off colored comments.

    Oh well. Deff. up there as one of the best movies of all time, at least for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutshot John View Post
    I disagree, as real life it might have ended differently, but it was a movie and Eastwood was trying to tell HIS story. It might not have been the story some here would have written but it was far more powerful this way, he didn't want to remake Unforgiven.

    As a shining example of cinematic art, and that's clearly what it was, the movie couldn't have ended any other way.

    If Kowalski had gone down shooting, they would have killed him, then they would have come after the boy and his family.

    He laid down his life for a buddy. He viewed it as war and he chose a strategic rather than tactical victory.
    Yup, as stated previously, you nailed it. It is similar to the ending of the movie, "The Last Castle", Self sacrifice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d90king View Post
    Great movie... Gotta love the line "you ever run into one of those guys that you shouldn't have f'dd with...I'm that guy"...
    That is a great line.


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    I wanted to see a mutual slaying at the end were Walt kills all the gang and is mortally wounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutshot John View Post

    If Kowalski had gone down shooting, they would have killed him, then they would have come after the boy and his family.
    Yeah if he simply walked into the gauntlet (pun) announcing he was there to kill everyone. Or with a little planning he could have easily gotten them all and passed away of natural causes before it ever even went to trial.

    As for gang member retaliation, they will gun for people for setting them up just the same as they would for anything else. Gang bangers don't have a "we were in the wrong" code of ethics.
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    Normally I wouldn't watch a movie like this more than once, but this is a great flick so I've watched it 3 times in the last week. IMHO, it's easily Clint's best work.
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    reminds me of 'The Shootist" with John Wayne.

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