Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
Body armor was an excellent point, and a carbine is the perfect counterpoint.

I'd love to bring a carbine, and a friend with a carbine..

I think it is just a matter of time before jihadis start shooting things up here. It is just low tech and low resource enough to fit their operational models. That adds in a third level; from the gunman in a hostage situation, to an active shooters, to active shooters with probable explosives.
Hasan paved the way. Of course John Muhammad paved the way for effective sniping and so far they haven't copied that one.....yet.