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While I can't justify the Detective's actions, I cannot believe the juvenile behavior of the crowd. Why would you throw a snowball at someone with a gun in their hand? Maybe the officer got out of his vehicle with the intention of dispersing the crowd and getting some uniform officers down there. I would have a hard time keeping my composure after getting pelted with snowballs. It looks like the crowd targeted him because he was driving a Hummer. I own a Hummer and I've had to put up with vandalism and getting the finger because lefty leaf-lickers love to focus all their negative energy on this one type of vehicle. Perhaps they would have left him alone if he was in a Prius.Of course, he would have needed the crowd's help to get going again in the snow. Love it or hate it, my Hummer is prepared for anything Mother Nature can throw at me.
Last edited by KS Trekker; 12-23-09 at 07:17.
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Why did he even stop...
The way I read it just prior to that a marked unit had gotten stuck in the intersection, the crowd pushed it out, and went on with their snowball fight.
Then this idiot shows up...
People are really sad. The finger can be pointed at everyone in that video. The "mob" mentality didn't help matters. Det. Baylor's actions didn't de-escalate the situation and those assholes that were spewing vulgarity didn't help matters. What's with the woman asking him to spell his name? As though she couldn't contact the station later and ask for him. Wouldn't be hard to find him after she described the "situation". I deal with large crowds everyday. Det. Baylor, I can only assume, heard and felt a "thump" against his vehicle and then identified what appeared to be an "unruly crowd" at the intersection. I'm not justifying his actions to exit his vehicle gun in hand but maybe the crowd could have reacted differently instead of instigating his reaction.
I live in Canada where snowballs are common in the winter. I've rolled up snowballs that were as hard as large rocks -- ice balls as a matter of fact -- due to our temperatures and dryness. Because the crowd identified him as a cop, they took advantage of this and prodded him to react inappropriately. I don't think for one second that had that man been "a stranger" with a gun, these idiots would've continued that way.
It's really unfortunate, especially during this time of the year. Det. Baylor will be re-signed to desk duty because he made the wrong judgement and his holiday season will not be so joyous. Sometimes we need to think about our actions and how they affect those around us.
I wish you all a happy holiday season, I pray for all our troops serving abroad and I thank the Lord that men and women in the law enforcement role are keeping me and family safe during this festive season.
"Most standards are set low to accomodate the bottom feeders of life who lack the personal pride, motivation and determination to rise above the rest." - Paul Howe
I don't believe the crowd "targeted" him as he drove past in a Hummer. Do you have any corroborating evidence?
Doc Williams
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We must've watched a different video. 1st I'd say the asshole is the guy pulling out a gun due to a snowball hitting his car which isn't even shown in the video and is an assumption.
2nd This "unruly crowd" helped a stuck police officer get his cruiser back in action a few minutes before this, as seen on our local news. Not to mention "what appeared to be an unruly crowd" is such bullshit beat around the bush cover your ass speak it's not even funny.
3rd You say he exited the vehicle with gun in hand and then you go on to say "Because the crowd identified him as a cop, they took advantage of this and prodded him to react inappropriately.". So, which is it? His inappropriate reaction was to get out of his vehicle while brandishing a weapon! Something any other citizen would be arrested for. How are they to identify him as a cop in an unmarked Hummer and wearing street clothes?
4th The last bolded print is the entire situation wrapped up into one neat little line "Det. Baylor will be re-signed to desk duty because he made the wrong judgement".
Before you think this is anti-LEO or any other such nonsense, it isn't. It's called being held accountable for your actions no matter what your job or uniform is.
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