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    Quote Originally Posted by Volucris View Post
    Not a very sound argument but I guess some could find it funny.
    Scientifically it is relatively more sound than the pseudo-science bullshit engaged in by so-called climatologists in cherry-picking data and virtually making stuff up out of thin air to fit their agenda.

    At least this is based on actual observations

    I know, I know; I speak heresy in the eyes of the Enlightened Church of the ManBearPig.

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo
    ...just too stupid to realize that when Earth's core temp climbed to several million degrees recently, the surface was bound to warm a tad as well.
    That clip of Al Gore saying that the Earth's core temp is in the millions of degrees is priceless.

    Quote Originally Posted by JLSKIP
    It's only ironic to those who have little understanding of "global warming" or more accurately called "global climate change". More extreme weather (hot or cold) gives the scenario more credibility.

    I'm not going to say that pollution is causing it, I'm not scientist and there are too many variables to account for. What I can say with a high degree of confidence is that we need to be paying attention, because if our climate tilts in one direction too much, it could be like hitting the reset button. Then again, Earth could be a whole lot more resilient than some think. It's better to err on the side of caution.
    No, it really doesn't. It just makes these green fascists appear even more absurd; as they engage in typical limosine liberal ivory tower elitist behavior by engaging in the very activities that they tell the lowly proletariat are destroying the world by heating, and they are engaging in those activities because of how damn cold it is.

    Err on the side of caution? The only "side" being promoted is one that implements global control, global socialism, the end of national sovereignty, etc. The green fascists and the transnationalists are using this contrived MMGW™ crisis (and the financial meltdown, for which an argument could be made that the system was made to collapse intentionally) to institute their uber-progressive agenda. Never let a crisis go to waste and all. The earth has heated and cooled on it's own for eleventy billion years and will continue to do so; and that big ball of nuclear fusion in the sky has a bit to do with things as well. Saving the planet is simply smoke and mirrors, and far too many people have taken the bait. Individual liberty is being systematically stamped out in the name of false security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLSKIP View Post
    It's only ironic to those who have little understanding of "global warming" or more accurately called "global climate change". More extreme weather (hot or cold) gives the scenario more credibility.
    For it to have more credibility it would require more "extreme" weather than we've seen in the past.

    When the environuts were warning us about an oncoming ice age we had extreme hurricanes, snowfall, tornadoes, etc. When their ice age theory didn't pan out (while, interestingly enough, carbon emissions levels were the highest in our nation's history...skyrocketing carbon emissions and the globe was getting COOLER...imagine that) global warming became the cause du jour and we still had...extreme hurricanes, snowfall, tornadoes, etc. Global temps have been going down for several years now (in absolute defiance of predictions made a few years ago) and suddenly it's now "climate change" that we're to be afraid of...and the evidence is:

    Hurricanes, snowfall, tornadoes, etc.

    Ya. I'm not buying it.

    There's an abundance of evidence that the earth has gone through a LOT of climate change in its history...and the vast majority of it happened long before the industrial revolution. The earth has cooled and warmed in the past without any significant human intervention. The prophets of climate doom speak as if climate was stable and unchanging until the mean capitalists started running factories.

    That's nonsense. The dire predictions made by the environuts are consistently wrong, and yet they consistently insist that they need lots of money and absolute control to save us from the life-ending disaster that they've been wrong about a bunch of times.

    As for erring on the side of "caution"....the multi-trillion dollar emissions schemes cooked up by the environuts are supposed to affect global temps by a maximum of 2 degrees...and may think that's an insanely optimistic number. The cost/benefit analysis fails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Wayne777 View Post
    As for erring on the side of "caution"....the multi-trillion dollar emissions schemes cooked up by the environuts are supposed to affect global temps by a maximum of 2 degrees...and may think that's an insanely optimistic number. The cost/benefit analysis fails.
    And whatever temperature reduction value being trumpeted is based on a system of modeling and data collection and retention that is, to put it very generously, extremely suspect at best.

    The one aspect of this whole mess that is crystal clear is NOT what the weather/climate will be in 20 years; but that people are going to get filthy rich, and you and I will be paying more for everything to make that happen, at the expense of our economy and even our way of life.

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    I think this is even more ironic

    Quote Originally Posted by JLSKIP View Post
    It's only ironic to those who have little understanding of "global warming" or more accurately called "global climate change".

    ... I'm not scientist ...
    Uh-huh. That puts you on par with Algore at least. He's not an expert either.

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    1000 years ago, if it was a bad winter or dry summer, God was mad at you. But if you payed money or crops or something to your religious figures (whom either controlled the gov or flat out were the gov) then they would make it ok with god and fix it for you. I am so glad we are not that stupid anymore. Now days, if you go through a bad winter or bad summer it is your fault for burning too much carbon, but if you pay more money to the government they will fix it for you and make it all better. Hooray for our new found intelligence Look, the earth goes up in temp and it goes down in temp without regard for us. Who was making it go up when it was so warm in the middle ages, and then how did they cut their carbon enough to cause the mini-ice age after that? I thought that it was a funny coincidence that every time earth goes up or down in temp so does Mars. Hmmm maybe, just maybe our temp is controlled by that big nuclear fireball in the sky that some call the sun. Now this is not to say that there is no pollution that we need to either fix or simply not do, but our carbon has nothing to do with it. Climate Change is just about control and nothing more.
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    There is no question the earth is in the process of heating up. The Scientific community is in complete agreement on this. What is still not 100% sure is the main causes for this. No doubt humanity contributed to this, but how much is still not answered. Governments claims that we are the main cause is in no way substantiated.

    That being said, I thought the poster was Damn funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattjmcd View Post
    Uh-huh. That puts you on par with Algore at least. He's not an expert either.
    Touché!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tracker722 View Post
    We would not be having this conversation if it wasn't for Algore...he did create the internet and was the inspiration for "Love Story". Brilliant man and a fellow Tennessean. If he says the earth is warming, we better listen.
    Don't forget that he also helped invent the electronic calculator!!

    I love the new buzzword they are using nowadays: "CLIMATE CHANGE". I always thought that this is something that went with the seasons as well as geographic areas and is something we actually need and want. Or was I mistaken about all that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    There is no question the earth is in the process of heating up. The Scientific community is in complete agreement on this. What is still not 100% sure is the main causes for this. No doubt humanity contributed to this, but how much is still not answered. Governments claims that we are the main cause is in no way substantiated.
    No, the scientific community isn't in agreement. In fact, the nature of the emails that were hacked leads me to believe that if you didn't tow the line that it was heating up, then you were shunned from publication. In fact, many of the emails latched on to by the media and released specifically talk about excluding differing opinions/data.

    Also, it would appear that in light of the emails coming out, the the Climate Research group is stating that the only data left is the post-processed numbers. No raw data to be had.

    Lastly, just like we couldn't predict Mount Saint Helen's or the big tsunami a few years ago, we can't predict much of anything with certainty in regards to cyclical events happening on Earth. Even if the temps are up over the last 30 years, there is no data available, or of a large enough sample size, to say that the temps will not cool off in a heating and cooling oscillation.

    30 years is a gnat's ass hair in the grand scheme of things.

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