Avatar sucked

[Belmont31R]

Not this shit again..

Seriously, you can read just about any personal bias into a movie now adays.

There is no "America Sucks" theme to the movie. Hell there is no mention of ANY country. It is a basic retelling of Dances with wolves, or even Pocahontas set in a sci fi setting. It is your standard archtypical story. There are only what? 7 or 8 different ones. And we can only put so many spins on them. So of course it is going to be familiar.
Humans sometimes do bad things for monetary gain. Wow we have never seen that in history have we? AS mentioned before, we have the whole American Indian situation, slavery, etc that are perfect examples of this right at home.


There are a hell of a lot of good soldiers out there, both .mil and private. But there are also bad I am sure. And in a movie you need a bad guy. Selfish, blood lust filled soldier makes a good bad guy in a movie. I don't think the plot would have went very far without him. The good guy was also a soldier so keep that in mind as well.

If you go in thinking you will hate it then you are going to find a reason to hate it. If you go in and actually try to enjoy the movie then you will enjoy (probably) the movie.

The director of the movie in multiple interviews said what the motivation behind the film is. I dont need to read into anything. So if I went and saw it Id already know what the meaning behind the plot is. No guessing or reading into anything.

[kwelz]

The director of the movie in multiple interviews said what the motivation behind the film is. I dont need to read into anything. So if I went and saw it Id already know what the meaning behind the plot is. No guessing or reading into anything.

Citation? Not trying to be a smartass here, I am serious. I have heard a couple people claim this but not one has been able to show any quote or clip of him talking about this being some anti American or Anti Military film.

I think one person put it best when asked about what the thought of the controversy in this film. It has been attack by both sides. Some people mad that the natives needed saving by a white guy and others like a few of you mad that there is some anti military feel.

At the end of the day, you’ve got to check some of your personal baggage at the door, ease up on the political sensitivity, not sweat the political correctness or lack thereof, and realize this is a movie in which an exo-armored space marine jumps out of an exploding ship to engage in a knife fight with a giant space panther. If that sounds like a good time to you, you’re going to dig this movie.

Not everything is some grand political statement. Sometimes it is just cool explosions and hot blue chicks with tails. :P

[variablebinary]

"Avatar." It was really, really terrible. It was a kluge of lame, LAME Hollywood plot devices:

1. Noble white dude saves the savages.
2. Savages are "noble" and "environmentally aware."
3. Evil corporations are coming to ruin paradise.
4. Guns are bad. Knives and arrows are good.
5. The planet is one living entity that binds us all (you know, the force).
6. The natives are lead by wise, honorable folk.
7. The natives are lead by wise, honorable folk.s.
8. Soldiers are evil, stupid and heartless (but only human soldiers).
9. Pocahantas.
10. Pocahantas has a pissy brother with a heart of gold.
11. Native folk medicine heals all!
12. Bows and arrows are effective against tanks and helicopters.
13. The evil Col/Sgt/Old military guy.
14. They actually referenced "Shock and awe."
15. Standard fight to the death.
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Oh, and the over-arching them was clearly, "America sucks."

Whatever's in your head is all you'll ever see.

Remember when people said there were all these George Bush like political overtones in "Revenge of the Sith"

And it doesn't matter if you like or agree with it, there is no denying that powerful entities with money and weapons do in fact slaughter, displace and pillage those without power and the means to defend themselves. The use of guns for hire is a typical part of the equation.

This had been the case since the dawn of time, so for such things to be reflected in films like avatar, or books, or whatever should not be some great shocker unless you literally slept through every history class in your academic life.

[Belmont31R]

Citation? Not trying to be a smartass here, I am serious. I have heard a couple people claim this but not one has been able to show any quote or clip of him talking about this being some anti American or Anti Military film.

I think one person put it best when asked about what the thought of the controversy in this film. It has been attack by both sides. Some people mad that the natives needed saving by a white guy and others like a few of you mad that there is some anti military feel.


Not everything is some grand political statement. Sometimes it is just cool explosions and hot blue chicks with tails. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjdUMQ6SppM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4MIaHG2Yf0


He says it represents Vietnam, what we did to American indians, imperialism, greed, what we've done to the environment, etc


Lets see...US soldiers were the primary force in Vietnam, and in the indian wars.

What we've done to the environment? More liberal green shit.

Imperialism? A favorite key word of the left especially in talking about Iraq.

Greed?


Again not reading into anything. I dont have any desire to go see a film where those things are the basis for the movie, and the way the plot here works you have to be purposefully obtuse to not know what this flick is about. As the director says, in his own words, its about the Vietnam War, greed, the environment, imperialism, American indians, etc.

Sorry but a spade is a spade, and this film is meant to represent what the left thinks is wrong with America and the world, and the 'wrong' things we've done in the past.

[jbsf3]

Great graphics/3D but I thought the plot/story were a bit over the top as well....

[El Mac]

Dances with Wolves in space but it was absolutely excellent.

We're at the point where any current movie's story can be traced back to a previous one.

It seems a lot of people are just not understanding the movie at all.

Oh I understand it all too well, and why I won't waste my hard earned bucks sitting through some kind of Leftist propaganda pablum.

[tmorg]

Typical hollywood BS. Plain and simple. they are trying to make up for a lack of creative talent by filling movies full of special effect crap.

[Greg Bell]

Variable,

Remember when people said there were all these George Bush like political overtones in "Revenge of the Sith"

And they would be correct. George Lucas even went out of his way to name characters "Nute Gunray," "Lot Dod" too reflect his disgust with the politicians dominant in the 80s-90s when he was writing "The Phantom Menace." Mr. Lucas is very progressive/left in his personal politics and didn't mind making a statement or two. That's fine with me. I enjoyed those movies despite the political stuff because it was subtle and less ham-fisted. It isn't like the Emperor turned to the screen and said he was going to have a campaign of "Shock and awe" and drop "daisy cutters" on Wookies using his clone army of private military contractors to extract resources from.
under their holy monuments.

Avatar drove the bus off the cliff. The real crime of "Avatar" was just how transparent and unoriginal it was. This movie was literally one of the least original stories I have seen. It was, as stated before, "Aliens" mixed with "Dances with Wolves." Filter that through Halo and Mr. Cameron's doctrinaire leftist dreck and you have a 3 hour video game that teachers can show after "An Inconvenient truth."

[Danny Boy]

I thought it was awesome. James Cameron rules. Didn't think about the political stuff as I don't care too.

[Cohibra45]

I watched both interviews with J. Cameron and I have to admit that he is a typical Hollywood liberal and dreamer. So what??? Did you expect something different?? Both interviews are with extremely liberal media outlets also.

Step back and take a look at the whole picture so to speak!!!

Hollywood hasn't made any original theme movies in years............just look at how many remakes that have been released.

Cameron basically said in the interviews that "humans are the problem". He never mentions America at all. The interviewer is the one that mentions Vietnam!!! Cameron says that his belief is that it's our basic human nature to believe that we are above nature. Typical liberal beliefs!!!

It's a fantasy movie and that's all. Anyone can read anything into it if they want to. Cameron uses this common theme to gather in the gullible and naive (maybe that is where he got the idea for naming the indigenous people Na'vi???) for exploitation. I mean the movie Titanic was a total waste. Pure love story with everyone knowing what happens in the end. Same thing here.

Man.........It's just a movie!!!!!!!!!! I go to them for escapism and enjoyment, not expecting any revelation. My son (15) thinks it's the 'greatest movie made'!!! Hollywood has always had an inclination to show 'man' as exploitive. Just look at the 1921 King Kong.

My goodness Greg.....you really didn't think anything would be different did you???

For everyone here.........it's a love story with a good ending......nothing more, nothing less.