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    Input needed on an optic for a RECCE ...

    I just finished putting together a RECCE type rifle based on a "16" Noveske Light RECCE Low Profile" upper. I'm looking to mount a variable optic at 1x-4x.
    I cant afford the S&B Short Dot, which would of been my first choice, so I'm looking at the following alternatives. Your experience, ideas and comments are greatly appreciated. The 1-4x variable options post pinned on this board had some great info but most of it seems to revolve around the pricier optics which I can't afford.

    Meopta 1-4x22 KD

    Burris XTR-14 1X-4X

    Trijicon AccuPoint 1-4x24 30mm

    Leopold Mark 4 CQ/T 1-3x14mm

    Am I missing any other affordable options in the same price range?

    Thanks in advance!
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    Nightforce 1-4x, amazing glass
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    I'm going to put either a Nightforce 1x4 or a 2.5x10 when I build a recce

    http://www.longrangesupply.com/index...oducts_id=1347

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    It depends on what you mean by "Recce".

    I am going to assume that you are referring to a rifle with a 16" barrel that is heavier and more precision oriented than standard, generally intended to provide precision shot placent out to 600m. If that is what you mean, I would highly recommend anoptic that features either finger adjustable elevation and deflection or an accurate drop compensator reticle. Anything else limits performance.
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    Whichever TR24 suits you best.

    True 1x and acts basically like an 80% aimpoint.
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    I like the reticle of the Burris the best (although I don't have one). It seems to have the best features for both CQB and distance. I especially like the bullet drop compensation out to 600 yards. Anybody know if these good to go for "hard use"?
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    -Size of the target

    -Type of ammo (match vs. ball)

    -Distance

    -Accuracy expectations

    -Type of shooting you will be doing (ie. all prone shooting at static targets, running and gunning and shooting from unconventional positions, etc.)

    All have to be taken into consideration when selecting an optic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USMC03 View Post
    -Size of the target

    -Type of ammo (match vs. ball)

    -Distance

    -Accuracy expectations

    -Type of shooting you will be doing (ie. all prone shooting at static targets, running and gunning and shooting from unconventional positions, etc.)

    All have to be taken into consideration when selecting an optic.
    Yes.

    and the more information provided the better the answers can/will be.

    The internet seems to be defining "RECCE" as a 16" barrel carbine ( perhaps with a stainless barrel), free-float tube, and 1-4x optic, but who know if that's accurate to the original "real" guns or if those specs even fit any particular end-user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    It depends on what you mean by "Recce".

    I am going to assume that you are referring to a rifle with a 16" barrel that is heavier and more precision oriented than standard, generally intended to provide precision shot placent out to 600m. If that is what you mean, I would highly recommend anoptic that features either finger adjustable elevation and deflection or an accurate drop compensator reticle. Anything else limits performance.
    I understand that hits can be made out to 600m and beyond. Though even with the most superior 5.56 loads does the cartridge have any thing going for it at 600m as far as terminal effectiveness is concerned? Or even beyond 300m. I have heard so much conflicting info on the internet and by word of mouth. "It is a 200m and under cartridge" is what I always thought. But info seems conflicting on that. It even seems the true definition of a RECCE is be becoming more widely varied. I too am after the right optic for a RECCE type build. I probably would opt for a Short Dot (I used to have) if I had the $$. As far as second from what I have seen the Nightforce.
    Last edited by User Name; 01-04-10 at 21:57.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    I understand that hits can be made out to 600m and beyond. Though even with the most superior 5.56 loads does the cartridge have any thing going for it at 600m as far as terminal effectiveness is concerned? Or even beyond 300m.
    I am not the only guy that has gotten hits in real life past 600 meters. Even if that doesn't make him pop like a balloon, it has enough juice to penetrate sufficiently to significantly affect the situation. It will definately suffer in wind deflection and cover destruction, but on an exposed target it will work well if fed something like Mk262.

    I too am after the right optic for a RECCE type build. I probably would opt for a Short Dot (I used to have) if I had the $$. As far as second from what I have seen the Nightforce.
    I think that the 2.5 to 10 NF is a great option. For long distance shooting accurate range estimation is very important, and therefore I consider Mil-Dots to be important.

    Once again, it comes down to definition and expectation.
    Last edited by Failure2Stop; 01-04-10 at 23:27.
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