"After Armageddon" on History Channel

[HES]

My FIOS guide info is ****ed up for the HD channel but accurate for the non-HD history channel.

Thats what Im running into. I just want to record the damned show in HD. The wife and kids came home later, and they enjoyed it. For my wife it was a case of comparing against our plans. For the kids it was educational.

[Mark71]

I thought the show was great and had lots of excellent info. It really went into detail on how things would play out in a similar situation. Living near a major city, I need to rethink my bug out plan.

[ChicagoTex]

They've just mentioned the need to have not 3 or 4 days worth of supplies, but 90 days worth.

This is why I don't waste my time planning for TEOTWAWKI and similar scenarios. It's very difficult to be equipped at all times for that length of time and doing so would consume far too much of my time, space, and funds to be worthwhile to me.

The reality is if there's a national, continental, or planetary sized society-crippling disaster, we're all completely ****ed. Accept it now, enjoy your life now - if the world ends it ends.

With that in mind, it's not particularly unreasonable to plan/equip for a relatively minor local disaster (think like an F5 tornado tears through your area and basically shuts things down for 3 days to a week).

[GMZ]

I just caught this, I guess 6 hours of watch is good for something. Interesting from the perspective of the unprepared (and lucky). Comforting to know I can hold out for a month or two on my own. Nice to see this kind of stuff going mainstream though.

[Outlander Systems]

I'd love to stockpile 90+ days of stuff, but I just don't have the space. We're packed in as it is.

If you've got a COSTCO by you, 50lb bags of rice are around $15.00.

The bags contain ~70,000 calories. One bag should be able to keep an adult male fed for 23 days. DAK ham is dirt cheap, and has an unbelievable shelf-life. It's nasty but it's better than ants.

Here's a good post from MarshallDodge:

http://m4carbine.net/showpost.php?p=534037&postcount=1

FWIW, I sold off two rifles to buy food, back in October. THAT'S how I feel about the subject. YMMV.

[DacoRoman]

Taking this into the firearm realm for a moment:

If one has to evacuate on foot, I can see the benefits of having a handgun as it would be low profile/concealable, but I'd hate not to have a carbine.

Is it realistic to evac. on foot with a carbine, assuming you are leaving from a well populated area? Once in the backwoods a bit a carbine wouldn't be a problem, but I could see one becoming a target walking around with a long gun in the city areas. I would still like to carry one, but I'm not sure how to do it low profile.

If a carbine is used, it seems to me that a 1-4x scope might be a great piece of kit to have on the gun especially once you get into the bush, or would some of you prefer a RDS regardless (assume you can only have one optic system, and not a short dot since it is too bloody expensive )?

To take it back to the evacuation pack realm:

What size ruck for evacuation on foot, and what would you pack in it?

What would you put in your big bug out bag that would go into your car?

[RogerinTPA]

Taking this into the firearm realm for a moment:

If one has to evacuate on foot, I can see the benefits of having a handgun as it would be low profile/concealable, but I'd hate not to have a carbine.

Is it realistic to evac. on foot with a carbine, assuming you are leaving from a well populated area? Once in the backwoods a bit a carbine wouldn't be a problem, but I could see one becoming a target walking around with a long gun in the city areas. I would still like to carry one, but I'm not sure how to do it low profile.

If a carbine is used, it seems to me that a 1-4x scope might be a great piece of kit to have on the gun especially once you get into the bush, or would some of you prefer a RDS regardless (assume you can only have one optic system, and not a short dot since it is too bloody expensive )?

To take it back to the evacuation pack realm:

What size ruck for evacuation on foot, and what would you pack in it?

What would you put in your big bug out bag that would go into your car?

It's a good show, but caught the last 20 mins of it.

Depending on the time of year, a carbine would be easily concealable under an overcoat. After watching "The Road" this past weekend, you would be in a perpetual "movement to contact". If I have to break it down, stuffed in a pack, and have a pistol at the ready, then so be it. There's no way I'd be moving on foot without one.

[tracker722]

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[Cohibra45]

I DVR'd this and plan on showing it to my son. Very interesting and some very good points are brought out.

A good gun will be useful for sure, but most important is keeping your wits about you. Someone once said that the mind is the most powerful weapon. Knowledge about survival skills and long term survival is paramount. Even the CostCo's food is limited. Remember, either you survive or you don't............that's totally up to you and how much knowledge you have and common sense.

I recommend getting and keeping the FoxFire books. They are a wealth of knowledge of how 18th and 19th century people survived. They not only survived but prospered. The most important thing to remember is just that.........Survival and knowledge will be king!!!

The scenario as shown on the History is that the worlds population is dying at an unprecedented rate. This continues for approximately three months and all that are left are immune to the virus that caused the global pandemic. This would leave approximately 10% of any and all population. There will be no 'modern' conveniences. Cities will become wastelands and whoever is left will survive in small colonies/towns that can fend and defend themselves.

One thing that I find most useful is thinking for future reference is that smokeless powder might become a thing of the past. Reloading rifles and pistols will become a problem. We will return to black powder and lead bullets. Personally, I'm keeping my 45Colt revolvers and black powder cartridge rifles. Reloading equipment and caps are a priority as well as good brass.

Just some things to consider. Wind and solar powered wells will become very popular!!! Water is the most precious commodity. People simply can't survive without it. Modern medicines will exhaust as will most all modern things we take for granted.

Wow, that show really stirred up some powerful thinking. It really gets your mind to thinking back to basics!!! That is why I highly recommend the FoxFire series. They teach everything from log cabin building and basket weaving to home remedies and preserving of foods. Essential things to know if you are going to be in it for the long haul.

[Cold Zero]

Figures. It's not on again 'til Midnight. Hopefully it will be On-Demand.

Is it ?