OK, let's have it...UT or bama?? M4 National Championship Thread:

[jmtgsx]

'Bama by 14. I'm a Big XII guy but ....a realist.

Not a bad call.

I think I hurt my shoulder patting myself on the back.

[d90king]

I predict BAMA

[jmtgsx]

I predict BAMA

Bet the farm!

[scottryan]

Childish personal attacks notwithstanding, the Big XII disagrees with you. Rule 12, Section 3, Article 6 of the NCAA Rule Book says "However, the replay official may correct egregious errors, including those involving the game clock, whether or not a play is reviewable."

I'm well aware of what the rule book says and that line has been spouted by your side.

You don't think I have heard that line yet.

Egregious means like 15 seconds go off the clock because the timekeeper wasn't paying attention.

[scottryan]

From the NCAA rule book:

Ball Declared Dead
ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle or declare it dead:

i. When a forward pass strikes the ground.

Ball Out of Bounds
ARTICLE 3. a. A ball not in player possession, other than a kick that scores a field goal, is out of bounds when it touches the ground, a player, a game official or anything else that is on or outside a boundary line.

Limitations on Reviewable Plays
ARTICLE 6. No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable.
However, the replay official may correct egregious errors, including those
involving the game clock, whether or not a play is reviewable. This excludes
fouls that are not specifically reviewable (Reviewable fouls: Rules 12-3-2-c
and d, 12-3-4-b and 12-3-5-a).


SECTION 5. Initiating the Replay Process
Game Stop
ARTICLE 1. There are two methods to stop a game to review a ruling on the field.
a. The replay official and his crew shall review every play of a game. He may stop a game at any time before the ball is next legally put in play
(Exception: Rule 12-3-5-c) whenever he believes that:

1. There is reasonable evidence to believe an error was made in the initial on-field ruling.

2. The play is reviewable.

3. The outcome of a review would have a direct, competitive impact on
the game.


I'm not trying to be an ass here. But reading this...I have a hard time believing Nebraska has a leg to stand on legitimately, to file any sort of grievance and the NCAA will or has sided with them.

So should the referees add one or two seconds back onto the clock after every incomplete pass or dead ball?

[scottryan]

The Big 12 instant replay rules section 3: You can't review a play for time on the clock unless a play on the field is reversed. Because no play was reversed, the refs were not allowed to put time back on the clock.

[scottryan]

One of the referees for the Big 12 game is also under a NCAA gambling investigation.

[Palmguy]

I'm well aware of what the rule book says and that line has been spouted by your side.

You don't think I have heard that line yet.

Egregious means like 15 seconds go off the clock because the timekeeper wasn't paying attention.

"My side"? LOL. It was no skin off of my back who won that game. I had been hoping that Texas would make it to the big show but I don't care that much. My team got curb stomped in our conference championship; only thing I really cared about after that was the Sugar Bowl.

Also "spouted" by the governing authority for the game in question; the Big XII Conference.

Where does that definition of "egregious" come from? I haven't seen it in the rule book, though to be fair I haven't really looked but if it's in there, I'm sure your vast knowledge of football will be able to provide a cite for it.

[Longhorn]

Believe what you want Scott...I won't chastise you in believing what you want. After all I still believe Warrick Dunn scored against Virginia in the closing seconds of their game in the early 90s.

But officials add time to the clock all the time. Whether it seems arbitrary at 22:28 and won't directly effect the game, or at 59:59 and leaves us in a situation such as this. Officials can, will and do add time to the clock. You want to believe Nebraska was screwed? Go right ahead.

I would argue just as hard if the tables were turned and Texas lost to Nebraska in that final second. Because (in this case) Nebraska had 60 minutes to beat Texas. For 59:59 they did just that...