If all you are doing is commuting to work with it, get a subaru with snow tires for the winter. Any of em. Plus it'll be cheaper on gas.
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If all you are doing is commuting to work with it, get a subaru with snow tires for the winter. Any of em. Plus it'll be cheaper on gas.
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In the next month I will no longer have that commute. I will need a vehicle that I can count on to get me to work no matter what. I cant call off just because the weather is crappy.Originally Posted by An Undocumented Worker
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My buddy has a 4runner with 100,000+ miles with no probs. My brother has a Nissan Pathfinder Armada with around 80,000 miles with a few problems here or there but still an overall good truck. I don't think you can't go wrong but since I drive a Tundra I would say go with the Yota hahaha
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I own a '09 Toyota Sequoia that I bought in the fall of '08. While I love the truck and it is performing flawlessly, the current political climate has sent my patriotic streak into overdrive. To this I would say buy something that says FORD on it. We just traded our BMW M3 in a few months ago on a Fusion Sport AWD, and couldn't be more pleased. It runs great in the snow, and lowered my car payments.
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Patriotic streak or no, that car gets worse gas mileage and is SLOWER than an AWD V6 Rav4. What does it have going for it besides being slower, costing more, spending more on gas, and the ability to carry less cargo?
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What are your feelings on my Tundra then? The Truck was assembled in Houston Texas yet the Corp HQ is located in Japan?
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There were so few 09s made that I would not count on finding an 09. I think the 4Runner was the 4th worst seller of 2009. Linky
Im on my second 4th Gen 4Runner after a short hiatus with a 370Z. Before I got my first one I drove the 4Runner, Xterra, Pathfinder, JGC, Durango, and several pick up trucks to include the Tacoma. 4Runner was the best hands down. It offers much more than the others that I drove in an awesome package. I like the Sport Edition package because it has some additional useful options (heated mirrors and side glass) without going over the top with a Limited w/leather, nav, etc.
It has what I think is the most versatile 4wd system out there, it has a center differential vice transfer case so you can drive in 4HI/4LO on dry pavement like an AWD with the center diff unlocked. You can lock the center diff and use it like a normal part time 4wd system off road in 4HI/4LO. The V8 (which is what I have now) is full time 4WD and very smooth.
I had a V6 before in an otherwise identical vehicle and prefer the V8. The 2UZ-FE engine is one of the best, most reliable, and longest lasting engines out there. The older Tundras had this same family of engine and they are reliable as hell. The 4Runner is a cut above because they are made in the Tihara Lexus factory which is Toyotas premier installation. The V6 1GR-FE is an awesome engine also, it has a top mounted oil filter that makes oil changes literally 10 minutes and jackstand-less.
Here is a 4Runner forum I am a member of, it has a ton of useful info. I think the best 4th Gen made (and also the most rare) is the 09 Trail Edition. It has a rear locker in addition to everything else, but finding one is damn near impossible.
ETA: As for a specific year I would go with an 06 or newer. There were a number of refinements, most notably being projector headlights. They are halogens but still better than reflector housings. I have a wicked HID in mine thats awesome. Also there were certain power/drivetrain changes that were IIRC made in the subsequent mid cycle refresh.
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Have a 2004 Sport Edition 4Runner that has been great. If you are looking for used, try to find a 2006-2008. The Urban Runner trim level is nice.
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I don't have much experience with snow being in Hawaii but have you given the Subaru Forester any thought? I've had two Subaru's and I've never had any major problems with them in 12 years. I drive my cars hard and do a few track days and auto-x's.
Not my car, but the redesign is larger than the old ones.
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Oh dear! I worked for 15 yrs at Ford. All of it in R&D I have benchmarked five BMW 3 series sedans and I would not hesitate to purchase one. Fusion Sport AWD *MAY* be a nice car - the brakes, the trans, the driveline are suspect but we know the Bimmer is. You're certainly thinking properly (reducing car payments). But I'd take a RAV4 V6 AWD over your selection. I'd take a Toyota FJ400 or any of the TRD pickups over the Fusion - not to mention a nice Audi sports sedan (okay, okay, I'm a hopeless car enthusiast, okay? Forgive me.). Subaru would be an awesome choice, too.
Why Ford over say, GM? Certainly not because Ford didn't accept Fed monies. They did not because they procured a loan one year earlier in which ALL OF FORD MOTOR COMPANY, INCLUDING THE LOGO was used as collateral. That's when I chose to take a buy out. And, no, nothing was mentioned in the press from what I recall.
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