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    All Colt rifles suck, therefore I will be will be nice and offer 100.00 to buy them back from everyone who has one. Thir 1911's suck too so I will give 25.00 bucks for those also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorhunter View Post
    I just got off the phone with this guy. First off, his website is outdated, and he doesn't know when he will have any more Colts in stock. He also said they would be $1379. He ALSO went on to TOTALLY TRASH the Colt rifles!! I mean, this guy REALLY trashed the Colt rifles.
    He started shouting out a whole entire list of things that he says are now wrong with the Colts. One phrase he spit out, (and I quote), "Colts quality has gone down the drain"...
    He started shouting out SO MANY negative remarks about the Colts, that it almost sounded like he was reading from a piece of paper, as his voice just got to where it sounded like a robot, with no emotion in it at all.
    Here are only a FEW of the things he said to me, as I couldn't write fast enough to keep up with him. I jotted down all I could, so I could post it here to let you guys see what this guy is talking about.
    He stated the following:

    COLT RIFLES:

    -are sold with uppers made in Canada now, and they are crappy quality, and the anodizing does not match the lowers anymore.

    -the lower receivers are not polished out like they used to be, and the finish under the anodizing sucks. This is why so many rifles are dinged/dented up, and rough finished in some areas.

    -there is usually slop between the receivers, so an accuwedge must be used

    -the trigger is "basterdized" with odd sized pins (assume he means the .170" pins)

    -they are sold with an outdated, 4 position stock

    He also went on to say SOMETHING? about the detachable carry handle, and the sight coming loose, and flying off under certain conditions??? I don't know WTF he was talking about here, as I cant' even imagine what it is he was saying. As I said guys, he said this almost as if he had read this "list" of remarks/claims off of a piece of paper a million times to other people over the phone. His voice sounded like a broken record, IF you allowed him to keep talking (which I did.) I then told him my Colt was pretty good quality, but I did have a few blemishes on the lower, where it wasn't polished down as nicely as I would have liked.
    He also then went on to specifically say that Colt WILL NOT offer you any warranty service, UNLESS you are LEO. I sure HOPE this is not true!!!
    He did say it as if that had been his experience, but I just don't know.

    Anyhow, he did briefly say the RRA's is now a better gun, and he mentioned the Contracts they've won with the border patrol/etc. He did not try to sell me one, but he did drop the RRA's name.
    Anyhow, I just wanted you guys to know what he said.
    Kind of saddening, as even though this guy may be wrong in many ways, he obviously has had some serious issues with Colts, and that is sad.
    I still love my Colt, and it is superb, and well built.
    I hope their warranty dept is not only rendering their services to LEO's, but I also hope to never need their warranty dept..!
    Anyone else spoke with this guy before????
    Roger that, I had the same experience.....
    Mindset wins....
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    You think he may advertise 6920's at the lowest price possible, just to get calls from people he can read his manifesto too? He sounds pretty intensely interested in the subject.

    Why people get so hung up on 6920's never ceases to amaze me. Colt has never built a rifle as good as one I can put together. Sure, the 6920 is an outstanding rifle, but the only show in town it certainly is not.

    That, and the people who sell the excellent parts I can use for a build clearly and visibly seek civilian business and that speaks volumes to me. Colt may have their reasons for their approach to civilians and that's certainly up to them. I however, when given a choice with zero quality compromise, will always vote with my wallet.

    Above all else though, is that I have three rifles, assembled from several top tier parts makers, that simply have no peer in the AR world...so there's s no reason to go with a factory Colt when better can be had. Why settle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5POINT56 View Post
    Above all else though, is that I have three rifles, assembled from several top tier parts makers, that simply have no peer in the AR world...so there's s no reason to go with a factory Colt when better can be had. Why settle?
    After buying a less than satisfactory M&P15 , I'm looking to build one from parts. What do you recommend for a top quality lower and upper (perhaps in a gas piston system)?

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    The S&W AR15 is basically built by Stag/CMT and stamped with S&W markings.

    What exactly is wrong with your weapon? There shouldn't be anything you couldn't upgrade or fix for less money than a new over priced Colt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -H- View Post
    The S&W AR15 is basically built by Stag/CMT and stamped with S&W markings.

    What exactly is wrong with your weapon? There shouldn't be anything you couldn't upgrade or fix for less money than a new over priced Colt.
    The zeroing problem that a lot of current Stag/S&W owners have recently been having and discussing on another forum. With front and rear sights mechanically zeroed, the rifle shoots about 3 feet high and way to the left:

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...=311257&page=1

    My M&P15 came back with the excessive rear windage problem fixed, but the front sight post still sticks way up when zeroed for 50 yards. Not an acceptable situation for a premium priced rifle, imho. The rifle still shoots OK, but I'd like to add another AR to my collection in case AWB2 picks up steam in Congress, and I would like to build a nice one from components.
    Last edited by Putter; 03-25-07 at 17:47. Reason: add

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    The non-F FSB fix costs $5.50, some companies don't realize the you need a F FSB when using a flat top upper receiver. Unfortunately this is quite common but it is unacceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotm4 View Post
    The non-F FSB fix costs $5.50, some companies don't realize the you need a F FSB when using a flat top upper receiver. Unfortunately this is quite common but it is unacceptable.
    My buddy's M4 flat top Bushmaster came with a non F FSB, but his front sight is OK. My S&W came with an F FSB, but is way off. Go figure. Seems to be a problem with a misaligned barrel/receiver setup.

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    Send that sucker back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Putter View Post
    My buddy's M4 flat top Bushmaster came with a non F FSB, but his front sight is OK. My S&W came with an F FSB, but is way off. Go figure. Seems to be a problem with a misaligned barrel/receiver setup.
    Negative. I read the link and there are a lot of people jumping to conclusions on TOS. Your barrel isn't "bent up" or "threaded into the receiver wrong" as a few confused users might suggest. I won't go into how stupid their comments are.

    Most likely it is a simple combination of BUIS that have to be adjusted or ran out of windage and a need for a taller front sight. It is fairly common for BUIS having the windage cranked all the way over to one side, especially with ARMS.

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