Ready for a new ice age?

**Lumpy196** · 01-11-10, 16:07

Originally Posted by milosz

Ironically, "living in fear" is precisely how a number of liberal and progressive people I know think of carrying a concealed weapon.

Clint Smith had the best response to that.

**13F3OL7** · 01-11-10, 16:18

Originally Posted by Alex V

I could realy use some of Al Gore's Global Warming here in NJ... Im freezing my a$$ off!

Global warming would be nice right about now. The overnight low is supposed to be around -36 with a wind chill around -46. Got to love Alaska.

**FromMyColdDeadHand** · 01-11-10, 16:26

1. Al Gore won the Nobel PEACE Prize, not the one for METEOROLOGY.
2. I'd posit that there is no 'science' in climate change. They can not run experiments and hold something constant. They are limited to observations, and past readings. And we know what they do with the past readings. It is being a bit picky, but I think it is an important distinction. No one is going to run out of a lab with a breakthrough that everyone else can replicate.
3. Models - Computer ones and ones from Milan & New York are easily manipulated, tweaked by a computer to get the results you want, and are never as pretty when you strip off all the make-up and look at the raw data.
4. This is an El Nino year, by all accounts the NW Pacific should be shedding energy like a MoFo and here we have a really mild winter -except that aint happening.

**Littlelebowski** · 01-11-10, 16:28

This is of course caused by carbon pollutants

Global warming and global cooling.

**Irish** · 01-11-10, 16:36

Global cooling was a big thing 50 to 60 years ago and now global warming is the latest & greatest BS to be spread by the media. If given the choice I would take the warming over cooling anytime.

**RyanS** · 01-11-10, 16:45

Does this mean that we can get back to normal broadcasting on the History and Discovery Channels? Just once, I would like to turn on the television and actually watch a program NOT trying to scare my kids with man-made global catastrophes and maybe watch something like say....about history or real science?

Speaking of which, and off-topic, but WTH is up with all the stupid reality television shows on the History Channel? What does Ax Men, Pawn Stars, Madhouse, Iceroad Truckers or UFO Hunters have to do with history?

**chadbag** · 01-11-10, 16:48

Originally Posted by RyanS

Speaking of which, and off-topic, but WTH is up with all the stupid reality television shows on the History Channel? What does Ax Men, Pawn Stars, Madhouse, Iceroad Truckers or UFO Hunters have to do with history?

I could make the case for the UFO Hunters

They are talking about historical sightings after all...

**kaiservontexas** · 01-11-10, 17:00

Originally Posted by RyanS

Does this mean that we can get back to normal broadcasting on the History and Discovery Channels? Just once, I would like to turn on the television and actually watch a program NOT trying to scare my kids with man-made global catastrophes and maybe watch something like say....about history or real science?

Speaking of which, and off-topic, but WTH is up with all the stupid reality television shows on the History Channel? What does Ax Men, Pawn Stars, Madhouse, Iceroad Truckers or UFO Hunters have to do with history?

Amen!

**John_Wayne777** · 01-11-10, 17:03

Originally Posted by milosz

The phrase has always been "climate change." What do you think the last two letters of the IPCC stand for? Warming is part of that climate change and "global warming" is an easy catchphrase for the media.

You should not prepare for "the new ice age," because nothing of the sort is going to occur. The scientific consensus steadfastly holds to the data as we know it - global temperatures will continue to warm far out of the norm.

...so when the IPCC scientists in the article say that the "warming" is a result of natural phenomena and that the "warming" is actually going to become a cooling trend (which we've been in for several years now) they are...what? Lying? Stupid? Given that we know that the "scientific consensus" has been considerably fudged by some key players in a manner that is absolutely incompatible with general principles of academic freedom and peer review, it seems a little premature to declare the matter settled.