Check your Trijicon for bible verses

Originally Posted by ZDL

ABC news story on it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-mil...ory?id=9575794

The cat's out of the bag for sure, now.

"A photo on a Department of Defense Web site shows Iraqi soldiers being trained by U.S. troops with a rifle equipped with the bible-coded sights."

Priceless!!

"'It allows the Mujahedeen, the Taliban, al Qaeda and the insurrectionists and jihadists to claim they're being shot by Jesus rifles,' he said."

"Jesus rifles", ha ha!

wait until they explain the KX3 symbolism should there be one over there.

Originally Posted by John_Wayne777

Religious ideals can include loyalty, protecting the innocent, faithfulness to duty, standing in the gap like a sheepdog to protect the lambs from the wolves....

All admirable traits.

Faith is like a gun. Used properly it's a benefit to the world.

This is very true. However, sadly, religious ideals can also include traits that are not so admirable, such as, believing that people deserve to spend eternity burning in hell just because they have differing views, which obviously is going to offend many genuinely good people. (of course not all denominations believe this way.)

If we use just a little logic we will see that we are all products of our environment. If I was born in Saudi Arabia, there would be a high chance that I would be a muslim, if I was born in India I would most likely be Hindu etc. Of course there are exceptions. I was born in a place that is dominately Christian. However, after MUCH deep soul searching that involved doing alot of personal research and getting away from those who are spoonfeeding me their version of the truth, my views have changed. Though I still retain many Christian values such as, "do unto others.............. which I see as "admirable traits".

Some may argue with my "we are products of our environment" view. Some that I have spoke with have argued that God chose certain people to be his followers or that it is a Christians responsiblity to witness to others and make sure that no one in the world goes without hearing the story of Christ and given the chance to repent and accept Him. The problem with this is that it has not always historically been possible to get the Gospel to every nook and cranny on Earth and when the Bible was written there were many places on Earth that the "prophets" and disciples didn't even know existed. As far as believing that certain people were "chosen" by God, this also suggest that others were "chosen" for damnation. Again, common logic prevents me from adopting such beliefs.

As a few other posters have espoused, it is very nice, and rare for that matter, when people of opposing views can civilly disagree without becoming hateful and judgemntal of one another. It's nice when ones freedom of speech and religion are respected on a forrum. Of course I didn't expect anything less from M4C. Truly American.

Originally Posted by C4IGrant

I think there is a lot that you do not understand about Jesus. Defending one life (for instance) is just fine.

Which Jesus? The one in Matthew? Luke? Mark? John?
Take 4 New Testaments, open one to Matthew, open one to Luke, open one to Mark, and open one to John. Now read each one comparatively. You will find that the Gospels vary in detail, from little to no variance, all the way up to great and irreconcilable differences in what Jesus did, didn't do, how he did it, what was said to him, what he said back, etc. What this all means is that (most biblical scholars will agree) each Gospel portrays a different Jesus, and a different story of what happened in his life. Try it out, you will see that some of the differences you may discover will deeply shake your faith. This is why all this is taught in the best seminary schools, to weed out those with erroneous/weak misconceptions of Christianity.

All we can say is that the 10 commandments prohibit killing, that Jesus mostly said love you enemy and hold them close, and that he never recommended murder as a means to solve any problems.

Originally Posted by C4IGrant

Trijicon didn't add the hidden verses to their optics to get Christians to buy them.

So far that you know. Again, I was exploring theoretical reasons behind their actions. I wasn't stating that I knew for sure. Let them tell us, then we'll be sure.


Oh, Grant, expect my business around summer time when I will be neck deep in my first build.

nto trying to be stupid or anything but i dont' believe in God. Just because people many people beliving in God which made you kind of lost and don't know what to believe. lol. Also i own a Trijicon 4x32 RCO acog also
http://trijicon.com/user/parts/produ...4&categoryID=3

call your ACOGed weapons "Bible Blaster" now. Second Coming, reload reload! A cookie to whoever finds out what thats from.

Originally Posted by vietboy1st

nto trying to be stupid or anything but i dont' believe in God. Just because people many people beliving in God which made you kind of lost and don't know what to believe. lol. Also i own a Trijicon 4x32 RCO acog also
http://trijicon.com/user/parts/produ...4&categoryID=3

What the ****?

Let's remember some of his words:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

Race, creed, color, whatever. What is the content of Trijicon's character? Has anyone gotten a product from them which failed or was defective? Did Trijicon stand behind it and make it right? This is what matters.

I bought my TA31F's because the Marine Corps adopted it as the ACO, not because there was a bible verse on the side.

I'd kinda' like to see an ACOG with John 14:6: "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Haji meets the Father through an ACOG!

Originally Posted by Atg336

All we can say is that the 10 commandments prohibit murder, that Jesus mostly said love you enemy and hold them close, and that he never recommended murder as a means to solve any problems.

Fixed it for ya.

Murder isn't permitted; killing sometimes is permitted. KJV is wrong when it says "kill"; the Hebrew word is murder. Look at the case laws interpreting the Ten Commandments, specifically, Exodus 22:2-3:

2If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.

3If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.

In our language,

2 "If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; 3 but if it happens [a] after sunrise, he is guilty of bloodshed.
"A thief must certainly make restitution, but if he has nothing, he must be sold to pay for his theft.

When the thief breaks in after dark and is struck so that he dies, he is certainly killed but the act isn't punishable as murder.

The 10 Commandments(actually 613 total) don't prohibit killing. In Hebrew it is best interpreted as "Thou Shalt Not Murder". Nothing wrong with killing in the right circumstances. Don't know what the New Testament says but guessing it's similar/same. I'm just glad to read some of the responses that have been posted. Reminds me most of us are much more alike than different. I believe the libs have a divide and conquer sort of thing going on; be it with religion, race, sex, etc.

And here we go!