Check your Trijicon for bible verses

Originally Posted by Submariner

Fixed it for ya.

Thanks, I should have looked it up before posting.

Originally Posted by Submariner

Murder isn't permitted; killing sometimes is permitted. KJV is wrong when it says "kill"; the Hebrew word is murder. Look at the case laws interpreting the Ten Commandments, specifically, Exodus 22:2-3:

I just have trouble reconciling 2000+ year old conceptions of ethics with modern life.
It's like using a sling shot and then expecting the same result using a .45 ACP - meaning that a few parts of the Old/New Testaments are still relevant, but most of it is antiquated Bronze Age ethical structuring for uneducated and culturally isolated Middle Eastern people.

BTW, if I had the money I'd still get an ACOG, I also view these tools from a functionalist perspective, even if I use them for paper targets.

Originally Posted by bkb0000

the point of these little christian symbols isn't to convert anyone. the point of the fish is today the same as it was yesterday- a symbol for christians to show other christians that they're christians. back then it was to show christians refuge in a place where they would be beheaded/hanged/cruicified/starved to death/tortured to death for their faith. today, it's just nice to see that there are still other christians out there. we aren't physically harmed for a views today, but we're still stigmatized and despised, and our numbers are halving every generation.

the symbols arent for you- they're to comfort us.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Navigating Collapse

This.



Have you noticed that Christians and overweight people are the only ones that it's socially acceptable to lambaste, mock, and belittle, with absolutely little to no repercussions?

Nah, it's just that they are such easy friggin targets. Deserve every bit of it really.

I think its a cool idea they do this. especially having the verses be about light of some sort.

After reading this thread I had to get my TR-21 out and sure enough, there it was. Of course I had to get my reading glasses out to see it (it really stinks to get older).
For the record, mine is Psalms 112:4, "Even in darkness light dawns for the upright, for the gracious and compassionate and righteous man."

Originally Posted by Atg336

I just have trouble reconciling 2000+ year old conceptions of ethics with modern life.
It's like using a sling shot and then expecting the same result using a .45 ACP - meaning that a few parts of the Old/New Testaments are still relevant, but most of it is antiquated Bronze Age ethical structuring for uneducated and culturally isolated Middle Eastern people.

If Jesus rose from the dead, the Old Testament can be fit (however awkwardly) into a workable, and (obviously) true, worldview (as can religious hypocrites, corrupt religious establishments, the Crusades, etc.). If Jesus didn't rise from the dead--if the resurrection story is a hoax, or a conspiracy, or the gullible ranting of hallucinating wannabe cult leaders, or a turf-protecting religious legend--then why even mess with fitting the Old Testament (or anything else) in? The crucial question then is the resurrection claim. It all hinges on this one thing.

(And to paraphrase C. S. Lewis, if Christianity is true it's infinitely important; if it's not true it's totally unimportant--the one thing it can't possibly be is moderately important.)

Originally Posted by truth

Nah, it's just that they are such easy friggin targets. Deserve every bit of it really.

Just because someone may believe differently or be overweight, sometimes through no fault of their own, does not mean they deserve to be mocked. Easy target or not. There is such a thing as treating other people in the same manner that you wish to be treated.

Well, if you get bored with this thread or need further reading, you can enjoy the well reasoned comments about it at Digg.com: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret Jesus Bible Code

I don't care what they put on their optics, whether it be for Jesus, Satan, Allah, Buddha, or Charlie Chaplain. It's essentially an internal numbering system anyway.

I'm just tired of all these people complaining about every pea they can find to put under their mattresses.

Originally Posted by sadmin

""It's wrong, it violates the Constitution, it violates a number of federal laws," said Michael "Mikey" Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation"

I bet I found the problem. But I'm not saying shit.

Originally Posted by Atg336

BTW, if I had the money I'd still get an ACOG, I also view these tools from a functionalist perspective, even if I use them for paper targets.

Only if most of your shooting is outside of 50m. And even then, an off set T-1 is a great enhancement. Otherwise, get an Aimpoint and, perhaps, an Aimpoint magnifier.

Originally Posted by Atg336

I just have trouble reconciling 2000+ year old conceptions of ethics with modern life.

King Alfred of England declared that Scripture was the basis of English law. That common law is the basis of our legal system.

Read here.

The notion of self defense comes from Ex.22:2-3. And that taking a life to defend mere property is not lawful. Note that if the thief comes in the night, you don't necessarily know he is a thief; he might be coming to do your household harm. If he is not a thief and comes to bring harm, he can lawfully be killed, day or night, by implication.

ETA: The notion is that for something to be law, it ought be fixed, uniform and universal. Malum per se instead of malum prohibitum; the Law of Nature and Nature's God as opposed to the law of men, e.g. kings, emperors and other tyrants, is the stated position of most of the Founding Fathers.

Originally Posted by QuietShootr

I bet I found the problem. But I'm not saying shit.

Could this be why I mentioned the IDF uses them?