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    Quote Originally Posted by Keesh View Post
    Not worth it. You won't see a noticeable increase in accuracy and there are more important things to spend your money on since you already have a nice new rifle. While you may have a slightly longer barrel life with a CHF, if you ever do end up shooting out your barrel (unlikely), it will most likely be more expensive than to just buy two standard chromed barrels.

    My math skills may be rusty, but unless you know of a source for quality barrels for $100, then it is in no way less expensive to buy two standard barrels. The BFH option from Bravo Company is $100, as has already been mentioned.

    I'm sure you could buy a CMMG or DPMS barrel for less than a standard BCM barrel, but that's a different comparison altogether and not at all germane to the discussion at hand.

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    Hrmm, you already have one and do not think you will shoot out the barrel, so why do you even need another?
    If you just want to buy another, you will just shoot them each half as much if you only had one, so again you will NEVER need to rebarrel either one. OR just wait until there is a sale and you can get a CHF for the same price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by perna View Post
    Hrmm, you already have one and do not think you will shoot out the barrel, so why do you even need another?
    If you just want to buy another, you will just shoot them each half as much if you only had one, so again you will NEVER need to rebarrel either one. OR just wait until there is a sale and you can get a CHF for the same price?
    Two is one, and One is None

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    Actually, the difference is only $70 for the "BFH" hammer forged 16" middy barrel over the standard BCM NON-hammer forged barrel. The BCM BFH Cold Hammer Forged 16" Middies are among the best chrome lined barrels available on the market right now, and at $299 they are priced about the same as their competitors standard NON-hammer forged barrels.

    I say jump on one now before they are no longer on sale and go back up to $400, or they sell out again!!! Just to clarify, Bravo Co. has their 16" BFH (hammer forged) Middy barrels currently on sale for $299.00

    LINK: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-B...d-16%20bfh.htm
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    Two is one, and One is None
    Nice concept but when I feel the need to own 2 of everything, let alone try to carry two of everything, I will be broke and have a back problem from carrying all the extra weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance435 View Post
    My math skills may be rusty, but unless you know of a source for quality barrels for $100, then it is in no way less expensive to buy two standard barrels. The BFH option from Bravo Company is $100, as has already been mentioned.

    I'm sure you could buy a CMMG or DPMS barrel for less than a standard BCM barrel, but that's a different comparison altogether and not at all germane to the discussion at hand.
    What I'm saying is it will be cheaper in the long run. To my knowledge, the CHF process does not add 33% longer barrel life, which is roughly the difference in price between a standard DD CL barrel and a hammer forged one.

    I guess what I'm getting at is most of us will not shoot out a barrel. If we do, there will most likely be something better down the road. Look at the Pat Rogers article, that standard barrel has over 26,000 rounds through it and still going strong. What bench rest shooters may consider 'shot out' is going to be different than what most of us consider shot out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance435 View Post
    That's one of the worst comparisons I've ever heard. American soldiers and LE use non-hammer forged barrels because that is what was provided to them through a lowest-bidder contract. Further, it's not an option with these rifles, since most AR makers, including Colt Defense (USA, as this does not apply to Diemaco), do not possess the equipment to make hammer forged barrels.

    Also, nobody said that a regular mil-spec barrel won't work fine in harsh conditions. Performance-wise, the hammer forged barrels won't do anything better, other than give you a higher round count before barrel changes.

    I say you might as well; for $100, you are getting a barrel that may well last quite a bit longer than a standard barrel and in the end at least pay for itself.
    Can you tell me where exactly I made a comparison?? I would think of it more as an example, and one backed by fact. For what the OP intends this this rifle for he will never see any benifit of CHF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickdrak View Post
    Actually, the difference is only $70 for the "BFH" hammer forged 16" middy barrel over the standard BCM NON-hammer forged barrel.
    I think the OP is talking about the upper assembly for $525, not the stripped barrel.

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    The BCM hammer forged barrel is in my opinion are the very best hammer forged barrels available to civilians. We know that hammer forging is the best way to make a durable barrel especially when the barrel steel used is 11595E CMV which is the same as Colt and FN .

    You will not go wrong with either type of BCM chrome lined barrel both are excellent. My BCM Limited 3gun rifle has a non-hammer forged 16" midlength 11595E - CMV chrome lined barrel and it runs 100% and is damn accurate for a chrome lined barrel. I predict that I will never shoot out this barrel.
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    Correct, I'm not talking about the stripped barrel.

    Gotm4 - I understand it's a top end barrel - perhaps the best hammer forged barrel available to me. What I am wondering about is do I need one?

    I don't think I'll ever be able to appreciate the improved accuracy potential of this barrel over my current non-hammer forged BCM barrel, but I don't know. Currently, I do not have an RDS - I just use irons. Hopefully, that will change soon, but who knows?

    I also don't think I'll ever be able to shoot out any barrel. I have a round limiter called lack of discretionary funds. However, if the hammer forged barrel offers other durability improvements beyond increased round count, that may be something I can use.

    The cost difference between uppers is not great, but $100 is still $100.

    The consensus seems to be not worth it, but I am still confused.

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