ARD Kill Flash affect M4 accuracy?

[M4Fundi]

I searched here & google, so...

Rifle is Noveske N4 (14.5 bbl)

How much does the ARD Kill Flash affect accuracy (especially at longer ranges 200-400yd)

with irons?

&

with Red Dot (Aimpoint M4S 2moa)?

[Iraqgunz]

I have never had an issue. I use the ARD on my Trijicon Jesus scope.

I searched here & google, so...

Rifle is Noveske N4 (14.5 bbl)

How much does the ARD Kill Flash affect accuracy (especially at longer ranges 200-400yd)

with irons?

&

with Red Dot (Aimpoint M4S 2moa)?

[buckshot1220]

I have never had an issue. I use the ARD on my Trijicon Jesus scope.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That's great!

Back to topic. It varies for different people. I personally don't even notice it anymore, however, several people who shot my Aimpoints ask "What is that annoying honeycomb thing...?" You'll have to shoot with and without it to know if it makes a difference for you.

[Robb Jensen]

You should sight it in without the ARD. It doesn't make the optic more accurate but without the ARD makes the target easier to see in low or imperfect lighting.

[M4Fundi]

You should sight it in without the ARD. It doesn't make the optic more accurate but without the ARD makes the target easier to see in low or imperfect lighting.

I assume you mean it makes the "red dot" easier to see?

I guess I'll just get out & see how it works for me. I thought there might be some previous testing and scientific theory on how it affects irons & red dots and that the effects could also be different for the two since one is in front and the other behind the ARD, etc.

With my previous Jesus Optics (reflex sights) it helped with the contrast of my amber chevron. I dumped the sights before doing any real tests with the ARD as the amber was a no go for my eyes with or with out it.

[Robb Jensen]

I assume you mean it makes the "red dot" easier to see?

I guess I'll just get out & see how it works for me. I thought there might be some previous testing and scientific theory on how it affects irons & red dots and that the effects could also be different for the two since one is in front and the other behind the ARD, etc.

With my previous Jesus Optics (reflex sights) it helped with the contrast of my amber chevron. I dumped the sights before doing any real tests with the ARD as the amber was a no go for my eyes with or with out it.

Using the ARD in bright light makes the dot easier to see, not using the ARD while indoors in much dimmer light makes the target easier to see. When I use red dot sights I'm focusing on the target.

[jp0319]

Personally I hate the ARD, I take it off of my duty M4 when I zero and qual because the view is soooo much better without it. I put it on otherwise, as it is an issue item and supposed to be there. I wouldn't have one on a personal weapon there is really no need if you are worried about someone seeing the reflection from your RDS in the civilian world, well I dont know what you might be doing? Now if its a training scar thing because you have one on a duty weapon and dont on a personal weapon and you are worried about the difference between the two messing you up, then fair enough. If you are a civvy and dont carry for work then as I said I really dont see the need. Someone will probibly argue this point but that is my opinion.

[M4Fundi]

I appreciate the info, but my question isn't whether to use it or not, but if you MUST use it does it affect accuracy, point of aim, etc. on the irons IN FRONT of it or the red dot BEHIND IT?

I will do my own testing, but thought someone else might have info for me to watch for during my own testing.

[bluepythons]

I appreciate the info, but my question isn't whether to use it or not, but if you MUST use it does it affect accuracy, point of aim, etc. on the irons IN FRONT of it or the red dot BEHIND IT?

I will do my own testing, but thought someone else might have info for me to watch for during my own testing.

It has no effect on accuracy or point of aim. While it does slightly hinder some of the light coming in the optic it does not change anything as far as where the dot goes. I have shot with and with out them on the same optic when I was doing some testing to see its benefits/uses indoors outdoors low light no light etc. No change on point of impact. I run them and have my patrol officers run them for a couple of reasons. Of course to prevent reflection, but in patrol LE most people that we point a gun at know its pointed at them so "seeing the reflection" of a sight isnt that big of a deal most of the time. The times it is well thats when its good to have. The other is to protect the front element lens. We dont run flip or rubber covers on our rifles with Optics. They are either in a squad rack or in a case depending on the vehicle/assignment. When you need a rifle I dont like having to worry about taking off a rubber cover or flipping a cover. I know they make the clear ones but if we can save a step we do. With the rack mount the back lens is down and the front has the ARD to help protect it and we leave them on 2 down from the highest setting. That way if you need to turn it up or down its just a click or two but will generally work for most situations.

Hope that answered your question, no effect on accuracy.
Dave

[M4Fundi]

Thanks