Got Testosterone?

[usmcvet]

Sounds good Pit stick T! I just had mine tested again for the first time following my chemo this summer. It is down to 85! Time to see the doc and have my dose increased.

[Mikey]

usmcvet,

I was diagnosed with LOW T levels in my late 30's, though I suspect the problem was occurring for FAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR longer than that. A normal male according to my doc should have between 300 and 800 nanograms (ng/dcl) per deciliter of T in their blood. I had 120 ng/dcl's. To put it in perspective a woman with "high" levels of T would have about 90 ng/dcl's. Yikes! Now I cruise along in the 600ng to 700ng range.

I use Testim 1% gel, about 5mg daily. On my insurance I get a three month supply through MEDCO for $62.50 YMMV. Good luck.

Best,

Dave

I'm on the same dose of androgel. My levels were 60ng due to pituitary failure. Hypopituitarism with gonadotropin deficiency.

It's been great. I feel like a whole different person since I've been on it.

Mike

[The_Biased_Observer]

Fat guy here, don't know how I snuck in the fitness section but the topic is close to home....

Been diagnosed as hypogonatic for about 9 years now, been through the whole routine with local doctors, their only solution is to prescribe testosterone. I've done the shots, which didn't last long when I was divorced and had to self shoot in the thigh. Went off meds for a long time but returned with Androgel. Had ok results with that then moved to Testim. Testim has a distinct odor to it my coworkers can smell....

None of it has helped me lose weight, with the shots I had some anger problems, or it may have been the marital situation....

I'd like to get deeper into the HRT science as I certainly feel that simply adding testosterone has a negative affect on whatever is being produced naturally... I think the current thought is the body reacts to foreign T by reducing natural production, obviously a problem as akin absorbtion rates will never match the bodies ability to produce. There are also thoughts that skin absorbtion rates drop over repeated dosings in the same area. My last self inject was bad and I don't see myself ever doing that again.

Problem for me is my endocrinologist won't hear of it and sees my T levels as the only factor. Any other doctors are part of some money making boutique setup, don't accept insurance and are not local.

[WillBrink]

Problem for me is my endocrinologist won't hear of it and sees my T levels as the only factor. Any other doctors are part of some money making boutique setup, don't accept insurance and are not local.

Take a look at the Life Extension's info on HRT:

http://www.lef.org/protocols/male_re...oration_01.htm

I think their general info in that write up is solid (but I'm not sold on the supplements they are recommending per se,) but if you want something more "progressive" then standard fare reading on the topic, that's got some useful info in it for the non scientist.

[WillBrink]

Will
can/do you recommend these type of tests ?

See article "It's In Your Blood" on the BrinkZone. That' a pretty good summary, but getting basic test for testosterone levels is easy enough.

[onado2000]

I have read that glucagon release produces a realease of HGH.

[usmcvet]

I have started applying my Androgel at night and I've noticed a change in concentration, mood+ and energy in just a few days. I dried myself following my morning shower and before applying my T in the morning but I don't think it was enough and my absorption was way off. Not sure if that helps any of you guys.

[WillBrink]

I have read that glucagon release produces a realease of HGH.

How does that info apply to this particular discussion?

[onado2000]

This is information which I learned a decade ago & have read/researched over years through periodicals. Do not take my word, look at the facts printed in journals. HGh is an endocrine hormone like T that declines with age. This thread earlier discussed before seeking exogenous hormone replacement, we should boost our our endogenous hormone production. Glucangon is released in response to low blood sugar. Avoid eating after dinner and sleeping 8 hours could help boost endogenous HGh.

[WillBrink]

Glucangon is released in response to low blood sugar. Avoid eating after dinner and sleeping 8 hours could help boost endogenous HGh.

I believe you mean glucagon.