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    Quote Originally Posted by Quib View Post
    Interesting.

    I’ve heard of the buffer roll pin backing out, but have yet to personally have one back out on me.

    Staking it in place is not a bad idea, and is definitely one of those quick DIY procedures that anyone can perform which will only make your weapon that much more reliable and will definitely eliminate that possibility.

    Epoxy might work as well, but I would be concerned with the chances of it eventually breaking loose or not bonding well to the buffer. I think mechanically fixing the roll pin in place through staking would be the way to go and would be more of a permanent fix.

    I may have to give a go at this, and if I do, I’ll post the results with pics.
    Much appreciated if you do. I had this happen to my buffer as well after a carbine match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cptx123 View Post
    Yes I have had this issue, how do you stake yours?
    Well since mine was sticking out about 1/8" already, I just filed that 1/8 off. Then I drifted it back so it was centered with about 1/16" on each side and staked it.

    It doesn't take much... just bend some metal into the pin hole.
    Last edited by markm; 01-28-10 at 19:19.

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    Yup, I too have seen the roll pin drift out, interfere with the buffer spring, and cause problems.

    The staking idea sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Well since mine was sticking out about 1/8" already, I just filed that 1/8 off. Then I drifted it back so it was centered with about 1/16" on each side and staked it.

    It doesn't take much... just bend some metal into the pin hole.

    I tried staking an old buffer I keep as a spare. I wasn’t too impressed with the idea after I tried it.

    The buffer wall is pretty thin. So thin that I feel if too much material is removed from the roll pin, the roll pin is no longer resting against sufficient buffer material to retain the rubber bumper.

    Another draw back was the fact that after staking one side of the roll pin, when I spun the buffer over to stake the opposite side, the force of staking pushed the roll pin back in the opposite direction, pushing the first stake material outwards.

    Another viable option to a walking buffer roll pin, might be drilling the roll pin hole larger, and going with the next size up roll pin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quib View Post
    I tried staking an old buffer I keep as a spare. I wasn’t too impressed with the idea after I tried it.

    The buffer wall is pretty thin. So thin that I feel if too much material is removed from the roll pin, the roll pin is no longer resting against sufficient buffer material to retain the rubber bumper.
    Interesting point. I haven't pulled a carbine buffer completely appart to see if this is an issue. But I already had some buffers where the roll pin was so short it was beneath the buffer body on at least one end already.

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    Another option is to use green locktite, once pin is in correct position and not sticking out. Its designed to secure items in place AFTER assembly. Creeps into assembly. As long as buffer doesn't get very hot, should work.
    Use blue or red locktite if pin has to be removed for shortening.

    Mark
    Last edited by mpom; 01-31-10 at 11:11.

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    +1 on green locktite... paranoid types (such as myself) may want to use both staking and the green stuff.

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    Be interesting to see how they work with the pin simply removed. Those urethane bumpers are usually in there gutundtight.

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    Better idea maybe-- instead of staking buffer thin aluminum over the pin, flare the pin on each side, file off excess as needed.

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    Flaring might work Ned. But the flared end would have to be no larger than the body of the buffer so that the spring wouldn't drag on it.

    I stake mine because I've had the pin start to come out. This makes it drag along the buffer spring as it cycled and then it caused stoppages. I could also hear a change in the buffer spring sound. The delrin bumper never came off at any time.

    The staking holds, I've never had a roll pin walk after staking.


    Last edited by Robb Jensen; 01-31-10 at 16:55.
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