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    Why Eotech and what is halo?

    Why Eotech over an Aimpoint? Other than the increased eye relief and larger "window" Why would you get an Eotech over an Aimpoint.

    I'm alos wondering what exactly is the halo system and how is it different than the Aimpoint red dot?

    There seems to be a lot of Eotech "haters" and the Aimpoint seems like the soup de jour right know but the Eotech's large sight window is what I'm attracted to. Battery life is not really much of a concern with me for my purposes. I've seen the "lifecycle cost" chart for the Aimpoints and Eotechs and understand the info but I won't be using mine in a always on situation.

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    The window on the Eo is bigger. That said using BOTH eyes open with the AP your FOV will be no smaller. And you will not get the "tunnel" effect some people speak of. Matter of fact there won't be a "tunnel" if you look through a AP correctly. If you focus on your target with both eyes open you will just see a "floating" red dot.

    On top of battery life some people have posted about the following failures with Eo:

    -Battery contacts failing.

    -The SOCOM unit sent back 100,000 units (553 model) due to non-mil spec battery housings that were failing. IMO that speaks volumes about the company...

    -Since most Eo's have the batteries "in line" with the recoil people have stated the batteries loose their contact with the housing. This will cause the optic to turn off during fire.

    -Some people have stated their Eo's drain the battery while off. In other words they go to their safe pull their gun out and the Eo is drained.

    -Some people have complained about the rectile fading.

    -Personal complaint, it turns off automatically. Some people want it ready to go. AP you can just leave on. And it will stay on for years.

    -Random Shi* here and there. Thats why I went AP. Yes, in a blue moon you here of a problem with an AP but that is rare, very rare. I did not base my purchase on battery cost at all. People will read this and say the xps fixed much of this and it may have, but its a new optic that really hasn't been tested yet so I would give that one time to "mature" if you will. Just get an AP. My .02
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    Well guess I didnt really answer your Q lol. You asked WHY Eo..... Well IDK if you really want one buy the xps model I think it is the safest bet. Buy a crap load of cr123 batteries though it will run through them quick. Only a 600 hour battery life. Another argument for eo is the fact if the screen gets damaged you can still use the optic. It will work with just the smallest piece of glass still intact.

    I personal reason why I like AA batteries though is because they are a dime a dozen. If shtf you could most like find them in anything in a house, office or wherever to use with your equipment.

    I personally own a AP Comp M4s with a Larue mount. I made the decision after a good two months of research. I read through evey page in the optics forum on this site and two other forums. Every thread that was EO VS AP or the like I read through ALL OF IT. If the thread was 10 pages I read through all ten pages. I made my descion after all of that. I didnt read one thread/post where one person or a few said "go AP" I read through 100's and 100's of posts. That was my conclusion and I feel very confident in my decision. Hope this helps...

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    These two links are good starters for info regarding Eo's
    http://www.kyledefoor.com/2010/01/return-of-eotech.html
    http://www.kyledefoor.com/2009/12/mo...ch-secret.html

    I used to be an aimpoint dude. I have switched over entirely to the XPS.
    -I have beat the shit out of mine (dropped, hit, bumped, slammed) and have had 0 issues
    -I know alot of dudes that are very hard on guns who go with Eo's.
    -I prefer the 65moa and 1moa dot over a 2 or 4 moa dot of the aimpoint.
    -I like how with a 100m zero the bottom dash of the recticle will be zeroed for 7-10m.
    -I prefer the FOV that you get with an Eo over an Aimpoint.
    -I find it easier to be more accurate with the 1moa dot.
    -I am faster with an EO.


    With that being said, Eo's do not have the battery life of an Aimpoint.


    PJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by VMI-MO View Post
    These two links are good starters for info regarding Eo's
    http://www.kyledefoor.com/2010/01/return-of-eotech.html
    http://www.kyledefoor.com/2009/12/mo...ch-secret.html

    I used to be an aimpoint dude. I have switched over entirely to the XPS.
    -I have beat the shit out of mine (dropped, hit, bumped, slammed) and have had 0 issues
    -I know alot of dudes that are very hard on guns who go with Eo's.
    -I prefer the 65moa and 1moa dot over a 2 or 4 moa dot of the aimpoint.
    -I like how with a 100m zero the bottom dash of the recticle will be zeroed for 7-10m.
    -I prefer the FOV that you get with an Eo over an Aimpoint.
    -I find it easier to be more accurate with the 1moa dot.
    -I am faster with an EO.


    With that being said, Eo's do not have the battery life of an Aimpoint.


    PJ
    Made in America. Another excellent reason to buy Eotech. Thanks for the links.

    How does the Halo differ from the red dot? How does the Halo work when the screen becomes dirty or damaged? Doesn't it change the POI?
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    this link may be helpful http://www.eotech-inc.com/features.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Colt 6920 View Post
    Thanks for the link but I have already seen and read that info. I was hoping for a users explaination in a laymens type way. I guess the best thind to do is get my hands on one a check it out for myself. I have shot a few rounds through one about a month ago but didn't really get to spend any time inspecting or "playing" with it.

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    I have a XPS and love it. Big improvement over the last year for sure. Its rode with me every night I work on my 15T. I recommend it for sure. Just change the batteries every few months.

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    Eotech recently sold me. I have used most versions of the Aimpoints except the T-1's. Then my wife purchased an MP-15 for me that had an Eo mounted already. I figured I would run the Eo for awhile and see what all the hoopla was about.
    I attended a class with Kyle Defoor instructing. I decided to run the Eo at the class until it failed, which I was sure would happen. So sure in fact, I had a Comp4 in my range bag that I had zeroed prior to the class.
    Shooting the Eo was great. we moved from 100m down to 10m and everywhere in between. We fired 1000 rounds in roughly12 hours worth of class time. The 1 moa center dot made for very accurate groups at 100m from both sides. It was very easy to transition right handed to left handed. Up close the 65 moa ring made shots very fast.
    I am currently looking at the XPS to take overseas next time.
    Ash Hess

    Government Sales Specialist at Knights Armament Company

    ahess@knightarmco.com

    Senior writer of TC 3-22.9 Rifle and Carbine
    US Army Master Marksmanship Instructor.
    Sionics Weapon Systems AR15 Armorer


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    It seems Eo-Tech really pulled it off with the XPS line. I have read about 1 shitting the bed, and that was it. Lets hope this good trend keeps going.


    PJ

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