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    Troy Battle Ax Stock

    Thanks to the diligent efforts of SHOT show attendees, we have seen the preview of Troy products to be offered over the year. Some of those products are already being discussed in another thread. Here, I'd like to invite comments on the Troy Battle Ax stock.

    It's said that a benchmark of juvenile humans is that they no longer stick things in their mouth to discover texture and shape. As adults, we can even project some conclusions from viewing an object without handling it.

    Whether they are intelligently based and credibly explained with substance is entirely up to the poster.

    No, I'm not posting a pic. It's a pet peeve of mine - a discussion board should be able to dispense with it. It's not about pixels, it's about thought expressed in language. Stickman certainly has the pixellation nailed down anyway, and can do that without spoiling his process of road testing without preconceived notions.

    Much of what I have seen in the 'net is preconceived, but that is exactly what we have to use lacking the actual object at hand. What first struck me were the cheek weld storage areas, then the profile suggesting the name. It very much has a pronounced squared lower profile, much like many sniper stocks. It is adjustable without the oversized lever common on most. The buttstock plate is hinged on the bottom, one solid metal piece, and reveals an internal metal reinforcement around the buffer tube. Another metal reinforcement is part of the toe. There are three sling pivot points at the rear of the stock. Troy reputedly mortared a show weapon repeatedly to demonstrate the ruggedness and ability to absorb abuse without damage.

    Given what I have seen - you do know how to use a search engine on the web, right? - the smooth exterior will be better than the convential M4 or other popular stocks because it won't be as abrasive and can't hold mud, or other contaminated substances. Single or other slings will have adequate locations for use. Storage will likely be the largest yet available for the type, with the possibility of fitting a magazine of undetermined size in the cavity. No, lunch and a beer probably won't - others have suggested Israeli trauma bandages, cleaning kit, or worse, a handful of batteries. I still see no advantage putting them in the weapon when they should be on field gear, available for other service as needed.

    I think Troy has put considerable thought into the design, risking some disapproval at first glance. It may be shaped like a bottle of motor oil, have a butt plate unhinged that resemembles a mail box, and be called "fugly," but those are emotional reactions based on preconceived notions from others. It may well be appreciated as the most functional on the market yet.

    It comes in black, flat dark earth, and "green," my preference that would be even better met if the word "foliage" had preceded it. Oh well.
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    Link with pics for the rest of us.

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    No thanks with a solid metal butt plate. Rubber= stock doesnt slide around like bare plastic and metal does as well as being more comfortable to shoot for long periods of time. And it looks like a SOPMOD stock ****ed a canteen.

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    Haha. I'm not sure if OP is for me or against me with that statement.

    Since I spoke on one end of the spectrum, I'll speak on the other.

    Yes, this stock is 'fugly.' But it looks VERY comfy on the cheek weld and solidly built (which is obvious I guess, being Troy). And I bet it can hold a butt load of stuff in it.

    The only part that concerns me is the buttplate being flat to the bottom. That was one thing I didn't like about the ACE stocks. I think a curved buttplate fits the curve of the chest a little better.... Eh, I'll leave that sentence there as a discussion point, but from looking at the pic of the tan one up close, it isn't as straight as it looked initially to me. Should work well.

    See, all that and I didn't even have to stick it in my mouth.


    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    No thanks with a solid metal butt plate. Rubber= stock doesnt slide around like bare plastic and metal does as well as being more comfortable to shoot for long periods of time. And it looks like a SOPMOD stock ****ed a canteen.
    It looks rubber coated.
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    The Troy link did not show a weight. I'd be interested in knowing the "empty" weight.

    Metal butt plate does not bother me. Especially with their aggressive fish scale texturing. Will be interesting to see one in real life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyVain View Post
    It looks rubber coated.
    Does not look that way to me. I doubt it would be. Thin rubber on a high wear position is likely to not stay for long. Just guessing.
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    I read somewhere it was a metal buttplate, but how the color is added or applied, I don't know.

    "Fugly" is certainly in the eye of the beholder, I've seen members of the opposite sex enjoying productive lives as a spouse and parent with little correlation to equivalency in looks. The contrast has sometimes been really thought provoking. I think that's what's happening here.

    We all get conditioned societally about what something has to look like, and when it falls out of the norm, it's fugly. The answer is that function has something to do with it, and over time, workmanship and performance under stress will change perceptions and values. Glock comes to mind. Work horse, not show stud.

    One caveat about cheek welds is that it depends on the amount of stock extension. As long as the buffer tube is exposed, part of it will be the cheek weld. A small diameter aluminum tube at ambient temperature isn't optimum.

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    If the weight is not too much i will be interested in this stock simply because its a very fluid looking design and it has features that my CTR doesnt have that i dig, like the extended side saddles for a slightly more positive cheek weld.

    I like the way the VLTOR and LMT sopmod stocks feel but quite frankly i think a combination of both designs would be better than either individual design.

    The Battle axe stock seems to be the combination of features that i dig.

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    Caveat: The Battle Axe made one of my nightly SHOT SHOW - TOP TEN lists. I like it, but I also realize that it has a serious shortcoming for certain people.

    For those of us that hook the toe of the stock behind armor/plate carrier, this stock will not work. I agree with the OPs points (as pedantically as they were made) about the latch, snag free surface and sling points, but the toe makes the Battle Axe a no go for me.
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    Pendantic? Well, OK, I've been reading Pat McManus again.

    Hooking the toe under gear or a plate carrier isn't going to work. Hmmm. I appreciate that for the insight it gives. No, it won't do that for those who prefer it. It appears the stock was specifically designed to prevent any kind of hooking at all.

    M93's might be a better choice. The pod leg styling of combat hookers might be a interesting short discussion . . .

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