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    Is it the camera angle or do the marks on the hammer look like they are at an angle? Honesly the hammer looks to be in canted to the side(might be the pic or my eyes also). Im not sure what part that is on the side of your reciever, but maybe take that off also and use the stock hammer pin.

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    It's the camera angle. That part on the side is the Boonie Packer Redi-catch. I did not have that part on the rifle when I went to the VTAC class and still had the failures. The redi-catch doesn't affect the rifle at all, it just replaces the hammer and trigger pins.

    Noveske told me to send the rifle in and that it didn't have to go through and FFL. I called my local AFT office to confirm this, they said no problem. I'm gonna try to get it to UPS tomorrow before work. Joel said it should be a 1-2 day turn around.

    I'll let y'all know the outcome.

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    One small thing comes to mind. The notched hammer presents a relatively sharp edge to the bottom of the bolt carrier. Are there any finish flaws on the bottom surface of the bolt carrier where the hammer rides? If there are it may act like a ratchet when the bolt tries to close.

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    I just looked at the bottom of the BCG and found a strange wear mark.





    Would this be where the hammer is rubbing? Could it have something to do with the bolt catch that was marred and replaced?

    I didn't get to ship it today but picked up a box and will get it out Monday.

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    That surface is where the hammer rides as the bolt opens. The bolt is supposed to rub there. The hammer might be bouncing back after it is cocked and peening that spot.

    It looks to me like that might catch the top edge of the notch on the hammer as the bolt was closing. You should try another bolt carrier if possible before you send it back.
    Last edited by DBR; 10-08-10 at 17:02.

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    I shipped the rifle back to Noveske today via UPS. I lucked out and there was a gun guy working behind the counter. He hooked my up with a free box that was 5x smaller than the one I picked up to ship the rifle in and saved me on shipping.

    I included 3 of each pmag and bcm mag, and a letter explaining all the issues I've been having. I wouldn't expect the Noveske folks to remember every conversation they have over the phone.

    It should get there Tuedsay (next tuesday). Of course I'll let everyone know what the problem was.

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    I had the same problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpico1985 View Post
    I shipped the rifle back to Noveske today via UPS. I lucked out and there was a gun guy working behind the counter. He hooked my up with a free box that was 5x smaller than the one I picked up to ship the rifle in and saved me on shipping.

    I included 3 of each pmag and bcm mag, and a letter explaining all the issues I've been having. I wouldn't expect the Noveske folks to remember every conversation they have over the phone.

    It should get there Tuedsay (next tuesday). Of course I'll let everyone know what the problem was.
    I had the exact same problem you have described (except for the mark in the web of your lower from the bolt catch) This was with a Noveske 10.5 upper.

    After checking each LPK part and finding them in spec and checking magazines and springs in magazines I finally checked the buffer spring for length. It was at minimum spec. I had an extra Wolff X-power carbine spring in my parts kit. I replaced with that and it has run without any problem since.

    I belive your problem may be two fold. First the bolt catch/release, because of the marks left on your lower, I would replace that. Then I would replace the buffer spring with a known good spring.

    I am old LEO and have always loaded my mags, including pmags to 28 rds to reduce problems with bolt closed reloads.

    I have no doubt that the Noveske crew will find the problem and it will be corrected ASAP. I have 4 of their 5.56mm guns and one 7.62. I absolutely run the piss out of them and feed them crappy ammo and they just keep running.

    Let us know the final outcome.

    Until that day,
    Darkop

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    Darkop,

    I replaced the original bolt catch that was marred up with one from G&R and it is good to go so far, no marring. I sent in the old one for them to look at.

    I figured a extra power buffer spring would fix the problem but would only be a band aid. I'm sure noveske will figure it out. My department is considering allowing patrol rifles and I would like to be able to get this thing back and take it through another class before that.

    Thank you for the insight. I appreciate it.

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    I understand your concern, but I do not think an extra power spring is a band-aide, I think it would fix the problem. I also think Noveske will fix it and may be the better fix.

    Good luck.

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    az doug,

    Ok I hear what your saying. Here's my thinking, tell me if I'm wrong. I am thinking of this kinda like a 1911. Lets say you've got a feeding issue and rounds are hanging up. So you go out and upgrade to a 18lb recoil spring and the problem goes away. Now the original root problem is likely something to do with the feed ramp being out of spec or the barrel's feed ramp, or timing, etc...any number of issues more serious than an under power recoil spring. The recoil spring is a band aid of sorts.

    Am I wrong to think that the rifle should be correct and in spec and not want to settle for a extra power buffer spring? My thinking is that if the rifle is in spec it will run better under unfavorable conditions, like dirty, or with a spring that's on the end of its life cycle.

    I'm not arguing with you, I'm just relativity new to AR game and am always looking for more insight. Thanks.

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