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Thread: What is liked best, MP MS2 or Vickers?

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    Umm, yeah. Dont laugh. Please help.....

    I just looked at the Blue Force Gear website and they have a Ga-zillion slings. Then NG threw me for a loop and I found myself cruising the VTAC site and was looking at their padded 2 point sling. Now I am confused which isnt hard to do. What 2 point sling are you guys talking about? Can anyone provide a link directly to it for me? Is it the Vickers one for like $67 dollars or well, hell......I don't know. For what its worth, I watched the video of the 2 pt padded VTAC sling and it looked pretty nice. The BFG site had me spinning with all the models. Blah!

    Thanks guys, one of those nights.
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    Last edited by Kentucky Cop; 02-27-10 at 23:46. Reason: who knows

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    I like the Vickers Combat sling, without padding, and it is what I "tweaked" to allow conversion from 2 point to single point similar to a Magpul MS2.

    http://www.blueforcegear.com/product...d=5&prod_id=79

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    I am with eguns and grant on the vickers 2 pt sling for a 14.5"+ barrel, but then again, norseman update might be the way to go with an sbr. It seems folks are try to cath up anyway they can to the vickers design. Heck, my wife's LW is still with an old wilderness that works for her.

    This could almost become a chevy/ford debate, but really isnt.
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    I use the blue force gear vcas with QD swivels very well made sling.
    Vtac has a long tail on the adjustment slider vcas is short.
    Both slings get good reviews but I chose the VCAS. Both will most likely serve you well.
    Has others have said the single point is probably at its best with an SBR.
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    I personally took Grants advice and went with the Vickers sometime back and have nothing but praise for the sling.
    I was recently talked into buying the MS2 and ASAP by another dealer for the middy and had mixed emotions on the setup.
    The MS2 and ASAP worked/felt pretty well right up to the point that I took the rifle out hunting.Then I remembered why I did not like metal hooks and attachment points.You would be shocked just how much noise the attachments on the ASAP can make in dead silent woods.Felt like I farted in church or something.Ended up wrapping the attachment points with tape it distracted me so much.
    So I went back to the Colt barrel sling attachment(I dont have rails on anything) with a Vickers for all the carbines.I still use my old 3 points for the rifles/SPR's.
    I say get the Vickers as its well designed,made and fully functional however you want to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Cop View Post
    Does anyone have a nice picture of their Vickers on the rifle like the picture above? I haven't seen one up close and currently looking to buy either the MS3 with the ASAP when available or go with the Vickers 2 point. It's going on my rifle for work. I do need to be able to throw the rifle behind my back in a quick transition when handcuffing people. Hmmm decisions......!

    Thoughts???
    Here is mine, BFG VCAS padded.
    Hope it will help!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Cop View Post
    Umm, yeah. Dont laugh. Please help.....

    I just looked at the Blue Force Gear website and they have a Ga-zillion slings. Then NG threw me for a loop and I found myself cruising the VTAC site and was looking at their padded 2 point sling. Now I am confused which isnt hard to do. What 2 point sling are you guys talking about? Can anyone provide a link directly to it for me? Is it the Vickers one for like $67 dollars or well, hell......I don't know. For what its worth, I watched the video of the 2 pt padded VTAC sling and it looked pretty nice. The BFG site had me spinning with all the models. Blah!

    Thanks guys, one of those nights.
    Ky Cop
    First, there are four slings listed here. There is the Vickers black, OD, and Tan, and a Victory sling. The Victory is the exact same sling design made from a different webbing material and hardware to allow for a lower price, and it doesn't come with a QD buckle for attaching at the stock end like the full-price Vickers does. The Vickers is $60, the Victory is $38. However, with your LE creds you can get a discount through Brownells after which the slings are $49 and $31 respectively.

    There is also an "AA" model for "acetal adjuster" where the sliding adjustment buckle is plastic instead of metal, and it can be had from retailers like SKD Tactical for $40. For what it's worth, this is the same slider used on the Victory sling.

    I would suggest the Victory for most users. I have multiple examples of all of the above, as well as padded, QD, and other models of the BFG slings and I tend to prefer the lower price of the Victory and believe it gives up nothing to the other models.

    Finally, if the price is really still galling you, you can take a look at the Boonie Packer Quick Adjust which is $16 and is the design the Vickers is based on. Get the 1.25" version, not the 1.5", and skip the attachment add-ons as it will attach directly to your carbine. I have one of these as well and while not as refined as the various BFG versions it is every bit as functional. For a variety of reasons I would not, however, suggest this sling if you're looking to make a 1-to-2-point version like mine.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navigating Collapse View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blankwaffe View Post
    Then I remembered why I did not like metal hooks and attachment points.You would be shocked just how much noise the attachments on the ASAP can make in dead silent woods.Felt like I farted in church or something.Ended up wrapping the attachment points with tape it distracted me so much.
    This is one of the biggest issues I have with the ASAP and MS2. Imagine stalking 2 legged creatures that shoot back.

    The metallic clanging is just about as bad as opening a velcro pocket. 2 sounds easily identified as man made and not normally found in nature. Doing stealth tactics with these slings / end plate, as they come from the manufacturer, is not good.
    Last edited by Surf; 02-28-10 at 13:38.

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