Trijicon ACOG TA26SG-10

[rob_s]

I have no idea how you WOULDN'T be able to shoot like that. With binocular vision and a focus on the target that front sight would seem not to exist at all.

[LMT42]

Frankly, I am sort of struggling with the intended use and advantage of the 1.5 Acog over an Aimpoint, yes, the image / target pops more but I think if I was kicking in doors (which I am not) I would prefer the aimpoint

I'm curious about this myself. The ACOG is a lot more expensive, seems like it would be slower than an aimpoint, and provides negligible magnification. Perhaps someone will explain the purpose/advantage of 1.5 ACOG.

[Vinh]

Gunwriter,
I was expecting that exact comeback based on the bait you set. I did it for a while (went through five compact ACOGs), but eventually got tired of it.


matai,
Yes, there is a speed difference between the 1.5x ACOG and Aimpoint. The low-level shooters don't notice a difference because they're not good enough. The high-level shooters are able to recognize the difference.

[rob_s]

I was expecting that exact comeback based on the bait you set. I did it for a while (went through five compact ACOGs), but eventually got tired of it.

I wouldn't call it "bait", I just figured I'd give you a chance to make a case for it other than what I assumed would be your objection. If you had objected based on something that made sense I wouldn't have even replied.

[rob_s]

I'm curious about this myself. The ACOG is a lot more expensive, seems like it would be slower than an aimpoint, and provides negligible magnification. Perhaps someone will explain the purpose/advantage of 1.5 ACOG.

I can tell you that in a competitive environment when I was using a 1.5x Compact ACOG and keeping up with practicing I gave up nothing to the RDS shooters. Nothing. In fact several other shooters purchased the 1.5x ACOG after getting tired of losing to me.

However, that little bit of extra magnification requires that you keep up with familiarity training (and it's even worse with the 3x that I used later on). It can, and will, **** with your head, and if you let it you'll start to get obsessed with inconsequential things like ghosted front sight posts. Dryfire practice is all that it takes, but you need to keep up with familiarity with the optic and ensuring that you are shooting with both eyes open. I always ran both eyes open with both the 1.5x and the 3x at targets under 25 yards, would slightly close my left eye at 25-50, and fully close the eye at 50+. It sounds more complicated than it is, but it was really easy to do as long as I kept up with it. However, if I didn't keep up with it, especially with the 3x, it would typically take me an entire match to get back to being familiar with the thing, or about half of TD1 in a training environment.

So why use the 1.5x instead of the Aimpoint? At the time I had several reasons, not the least of which was an uncorrected astigmatism that caused the dot in the Aimpoint to distort beyond a point that I was comfortable with. This was also before the H-1/T-1 and the 1.5x ACOG in Larue mount was lighter than the ML2 in Larue mount. Add all that to the fact that it didn't require batteries and once I used it I came to appreciate that slight bit of magnification, and I was quite happy using it for a very long time.

I got rid of mine because I went from contacts to glasses, thereby correcting the astigmatism, the Aimpoint t-1/H-1 negated the weight advantage, and I could be lazier with the RDS than I could with the ACOG, not to mention the ACOG presents issues in varied lighting whereby it's too bright in direct sunlight and too dim indoors in ambient light.

I'm considering the short housing green 1.5x because I won't be using the carbine it's intended for indoors, I think the green circle/dot reticule will address some of those issues, and it's now closer in weight to a mounted T-1/H-1.

TA45R-2 w/ Larue Mount: 7.8 oz.
minus
TA45R-2 alone: 5.9 oz.
equals
Larue LT-105: 1.9 oz.
plus
TA44-SG10: 4.9 oz.
equals
TA44-SG10 mounted on Larue LT-105: 6.8 oz.

Contrast with
Aimpoint T-1 on Larue Tall mount: 6.1 oz.

[armakraut]

The best way to use an ACOG indoors is to get some kind of lens cover you can flip down. My TA33R is not exactly the brightest ACOG ever made, but with the buttler creek cap flipped down, it's just as bright as you'd want an aimpoint indoors. You can shine a bright light on a white wall in a dark room and the chevron is still plenty red and visible.

I'll probably pick up a TA44S in a few months, I'm leaning towards the red reticle. Sort of worried about getting a green reticle, the sun doesn't just shine here, it persecutes.

[96 SS]

I am considering this very optic becuase of two factors:
Green or alternate to red illumination
Low to no magnification.

If Aimpoint made a T1/H1 in green instead of read i would own one right now.


(have to have something other than red because my main weapon light is a custom red 9P for use mainly out doors at night)

[Thomas M-4]

Interesting optic I have been considering the 1.5x compact acog for a 11.5'' SBR build. I was originally looking at the TA26SG-10 but has rob_s pointed out the TA44SG-10 would probably be a better choice.

Would be nice to see some pics if any body is using one.

[9DivDoc]

Anyone know if LRT is making more than one height mount for the
micro ACOGS?

TIA

[SkiDevil]

The best way to use an ACOG indoors is to get some kind of lens cover you can flip down. My TA33R is not exactly the brightest ACOG ever made, but with the buttler creek cap flipped down, it's just as bright as you'd want an aimpoint indoors. You can shine a bright light on a white wall in a dark room and the chevron is still plenty red and visible.

I'll probably pick up a TA44S in a few months, I'm leaning towards the red reticle. Sort of worried about getting a green reticle, the sun doesn't just shine here, it persecutes.

Hello ArmKraut,
I just looked at a 1.5x ACOG with the Red Circle Dot along with a single (black) reticle line running perpendicular down from the circle, a couple of days ago.

It seems in my area, finding any kind of ACOG, is difficult because of the higher cost/ lack of high sales volume, etc. So, I thought I would share my observations with others in a similar circumstance.

Well back to the sight.

The dealer had one in stock and the price was roughly $800.00. I examined the sight (I am not an expert/ but have used several of the other standard 4x & 6x ACOGs) and noted as did Rob that in an indoor environment, aiming the sight out into the bright day lit landscape the reticle essentially disappears (washes-out).

There were other reflex sights in the store; Aimpoints and Eotechs. I aimed these out of the store and did not observe the same problem.
By far the Eotech was the easiest to pick-up to my eye (20/20, with no visual abnormalities). The Red Circle Dot reticle in the Mini-ACOG reminds me of the Leupold Prismatic sight, except for the perpendicular line. The sight seems very quick to use and the 1.5x magnification did not seem a detraction to my eye (sighting-off of a rifle, not shooting).

The size of the sight is roughly equivalent to a standard Aimpoint ComC sight, minus the mount. I would like the opportunity to actually fire through-one if the opportunity presents itself. But these are my amateur thoughts on the sight.

That said, the Mini-Acog appears to be built like the proverbial Tank and appears that you could run it over with a car and it would be just fine. Also, like many others I really like the idea of no batteries too.

I am looking to purchase an ACOG sight in the near future myself. I was strongly leaning towards the TA33-R. This may also be an option for me as well. I don't recall how many inches of eye relief there was but it seemed roughly 3 inches as I recall. Something to consider as well.

There were several Standard ACOGs with both Red and Green reticles (no amber) for me to compare directly. I looked at both the green/ red reticles, back to back, and for myself I noted no great difference. In the inside of the building, both appeared equally bright to me. But, as a personal choice. I believe my preference would be for the Red one.

SkiDevil