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    How many rounds

    I am revisiting an old topic. I thought I had an answer, but I am beginning to rethink my position.

    Assuming things are bad enough that you think you need a rifle (and can get away with it).
    How many rounds do you plan on carrying for your rifle?
    How do you plan on carrying them with all the other stuff you need to carry? (For grins lets assume you are not just carrying the rifle around the house and in the yard.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RWBlue View Post
    I am revisiting an old topic. I thought I had an answer, but I am beginning to rethink my position.

    Assuming things are bad enough that you think you need a rifle (and can get away with it).
    How many rounds do you plan on carrying for your rifle?
    How do you plan on carrying them with all the other stuff you need to carry? (For grins lets assume you are not just carrying the rifle around the house and in the yard.)
    That would really depend on your environment and where you are deploying the rifle from (home, auto, etc.) and why. Can you add any details on what you're looking for?

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    The correct answer is "depends."

    Personally I always have 4 30 rounders with my rifle. If you count the 20 round mag in the gun that's 5 mags. The total package is not too heavy and still easy to conceal under a coat or light jacket.

    Never hurts to have other mags available but practically 2-4 mags seem to fit the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The correct answer is "depends."
    That is the answer I usually give.

    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    Can you add any details on what you're looking for?
    I am thinking gear, but the gear is dependent needs. I am thinking, or say I am rethinking how I should train and what I should carry.

    I am watching the guys at Magpul with single mags in single holders. This is nice and simple and if that is the only thing you are carrying......but I can not think of a time when that would be the only thing I am carrying and carrying a rifle.

    Train the way you fight, fight the way you train.

    And it is always nice to have lots of gear to choose from, but when it comes down to it, I don't think there will be a lot of time to change out the gear and retrain the body/mind as to where stuff is.

    So I am left with making a decision and living with that decision.
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    Well I always keep a single kydex pouch with a tek-loc handy. I can put it on just about any belt and it gives me quick access to a spare mag. A few mags handy to stuff in pockets is also a good idea. For true SHTF, I have a 5.11 type vest that will hold a buttload of stuff (including mags), and a go bag with more mags and ammo.

    The situation will dictate what I grab.

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    I am also in the "it depends" category.

    But let me say that if you are in a situation where you are working with someone else, you may want to double the number of mags in case you have to supply the other guy (assuming same type of gun of course). So in these situations, I keep 6 mags ready to go, that way we can each have 3 mags.

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    On the road...210rds for the primary rifle and 52rds for the sidearm.

    At home...every magazine I own is loaded to -2 of capacity to help with spring life.

    At least One 1000rd case of Doc's Recommended loadings in reserve for each weapon I own.

    Training...anything I can afford and buy bulk if I can find it.

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    Depends.

    Loadout one is a "War Belt" setup with the ability to stow six mags, but I only carry three.

    Loadout two is an old-school Blackhawk vest that holds twelve mags, but I only carry six.

    Loadout one is most likely the one I'd break glass on if a grid-down popped off.

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    +1 for "depends".

    i've seen plenty of people over the years who hae a "survivaal" rig that's full battle rattle LBV with 13 or more mags, plus a bunch more ammo in a pack.

    the loadout becomes huge and will limit your ability to move quickly or quietly.

    for me, i have a 2 mag pouch on the back of my Camelbak HAWG with two mags in it, and i also have belt mag pouches from Blade Tec and The Wilderness and a minimal chest rig from Spectre Gear that has three pockets that hold two mags each... plus a few pistol mags. (their website says it only holds one mag per pocket) the Spectre chest rig is easy to conceal under a light jacket.

    i'd also like to get one of the Sneakybags or Hawkepack carriers and another one of the Spectre rigs. some of the simple "active shooter" rigs that can carry 2 to 6 rifle mags plus some pistol mags and are FAST to grab and go make sense.

    and a spare mag on the gun in a buttstock carrier is also a good idea. i'm not a big fan of mag couplers or the Ready Mag.

    DON'T count on local LE or NG handing out mags & ammo. don't laugh, i've heard some people cite that as a reason for choosing the AR in 5.56.

    my gear is planned in layers. spare mag on the rifle, spare mags on the belt, spare mags on the Camelbak and finally the chest rig. i can mix and match as needed.

    for stored ammo... just look at the current trend in price and availability. buy it by the case and stash some. don't burn thru everything for playtime/practice. a case per rifle is a decent reserve.
    Last edited by fixer; 03-15-10 at 03:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixer View Post
    DON'T count on local LE or NG handing out mags. don't laugh, i've heard some people cite that as a reason for choosing the AR in 5.56.

    I can second this, there is not a L/E or national Guard unit in this country which would hand out weapons, magazines or ammunition to any civilian during a emergency. Your lucky just to get food or clean water after several days wait.

    If you don't have what you need before the event occurs then your Shit out of luck! The only one who is going to help you during a event is "YOURSELF" so buy and store what you need now!
    Last edited by PA PATRIOT; 03-15-10 at 16:32.

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