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Thread: I know this isn't the optics forum, but I'd like some functional feedback

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockshooter View Post
    I understand that you have a lot of money in your rifle but you do realize it is a tool. If in the process of mounting the scope you have mounting marks does if really matter. I hate to sound like a dick but come on really your worried about marks from rings. I can assure you there are plenty of us that have just as much tied up in our weapons to include myself. Guns are not investments they are tools. Could you imagine a carpenter that was scared to put his hammer in a tool box because he might scratch it. There is probably a reason you did not get a bunch of replies to your post in the optics forum. Generally people here are more concerned about how well there weapons works as opposed to how good it looks

    Matt
    A Lamborghini is a tool, is it not? Yet you won't find one owner who has a "nice" one that doesn't buff and polish it at every occasion, or one who doesn't drive out of his way to get ultra-high octane fuel at $4.00+ a gallon.

    I understand your sentiments, but that doesn't make them correct; they're simply different. It is a widespread fact that weapons appreciate in value when taken care of. That is the very definition of a good investment, regardless of the ramifications. Aesthetics and function aside, there is no difference between my rifle and an ultra-rare imported WA2000 valued at $70,000+ - mine simply hasn't attained that value yet. Ironically, no one in their right mind would offer the above advice to the owner of a WA2000, especially one sporting the correct era glass.

    Like I said, I have several rifles and I'm not worried about using them. I don't have objections to slinging around a fighting carbine whatsoever. However, this isn't my fighting carbine. This is my safe-queened precision rifle and I'd like to treat it as such.

    I don't expect everyone to understand me, but I rest assured that the few who do also happen to feel the same way. It's one of those "If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand" sort of things.
    Last edited by Skyyr; 03-08-10 at 21:27.

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    Dude, you want an investment? Buy silver. Your scope isn't going to appreciate in value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyyr View Post
    ... the rings left visible impressions on the finish of my KDot from the mounting alone (I didn't even fire it before they appeared). It was not from over-tightening it either. This is apparently typical of horizontally (traditional) split rings.
    Two thoughts...

    1. Wrap a layer of electrical tape around the inside of the rings, so that the rings don't directly contact the scope tube. It'll be invisible once everything's together, but it will prevent any scratching/impressing, and it'll grip better than metal-on-metal.

    2. Make sure you're not over-tightening. Scope rings don't need much torque at all. If you're not absolutely sure that you're NOT over-tightening, then get a little torque wrench.

    Bimmer

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    Buy a good mount like the Larue, give the scope a light coat of oil, leave the rings loose enough while you adjust the eye relief and finally use a torque wrench and torque the rings down with proper torque.
    That's all you can do trying do avoid ring marks...if you still get them live with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navigating Collapse View Post
    Dude, you want an investment? Buy silver. Your scope isn't going to appreciate in value.
    Agreed.

    Park the Lamborghini in the garage (oh, ...and it's not a tool) and mount the scope and rifle above your mantle. They'll look real pretty collecting dust!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tray View Post
    Agreed.

    Park the Lamborghini in the garage (oh, ...and it's not a tool)
    Right, only the driver is.

    To the OP, Lapping is probably your best best for two reasons.
    1: No mount is perfect, imperfect rings lead to strange stresses on your high dollar optics. Lapping gets them pretty damn close to perfect.
    2: a side benefit of #1 is reduced ring marks.

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    Those marks are not normal. The scope in the picture looks like it moved under recoil.

    1. Buy a lapping kit. They are not expensive. Don't go overboard, you don't need 100% contact, especially if you use tape as well.

    2. Use tape. I use double sided carpet tape. Bimmer uses electrical tape. I've heard of using duct tape as well. I'm going to try electrical tape on my next mount, because the carpet tape is a pain to work with.

    3. Buy a good torque screwdriver. Brownells or Snap-On off the top of my head. You just spent $4k+ on the rig, so another $200 for a tool you will have forever shouldn't be a problem. There have been a lot of scopes damaged by the torquemeister "go till yer scared and then a quarter turn past" mentality.

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