RedDot sights

[ca_fireman19]

So it sounds like I am going to probably going with an Aimpoint...Thank you to everyone who contributed.

[lethal dose]

I will buy eotech the day their battery life is half of that of aimpoint's... and not just advertised as being so.

[WillardCW4]

Aimpoint c3. Nothing less.

Agreed! The compc3 is perfect for non-NV use, and it has the ACET battery technology so it lasts... forever.

SWFA has a cool kit: http://swfa.com/Aimpoint-CompC3-Red-Dot-Sights-C8.aspx

I think SWFA also sells that package on Ebay for ~$20 or so less... I know that is above your budget, but honestly, I think it's worth it.

Also with the Aimpoint c3, you can get a 2 MOA dot as opposed to a 4 MOA dot, making 200+ yd shooting a lot easier!!!


EDIT: I found the ebay auction for SWFA http://cgi.ebay.com/Aimpoint-CompC3-...item2ea7f7beb2

Only thing is that is a 4 MOA dot with that specific Compc3, so if you DO want a 2 MOA dot, I guess you can e-mail SWFA and ask if you can get the goodies with the 2 MOA dot... if you don't care, then that's a pretty good deal.

Also, this guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...%3DI%26otn%3D1 its a 2 MOA dot, and I heard that he has accepted offers from $320+. So you get three tries, so maybe $320, $350, $370??

[PdxMotoxer]

I'm also working on my first Ar and been doing tons and tons of reading.....

I like to do the studying myself (i do read what others have to say but if i have doubt it good to go do some research yourself)

Anyway i can across some thread talking about how you should stay away from the EoTech's if you have astigmatism or use bifocals.

I kinda laughed it off because it sounded like something an aimpoint fanboy might try to pitch or someone who just spent over $500 on their aim point and now they
have to justify it is the best ever made.

Being i have astigmatism but refuse to wear my glasses because it's not that bad.

I found this on EoTech's F.A.Q. site.........

If you require corrective lenses (glasses or contacts) to see things clearly at a distance, you will need them to see the reticle clearly. Remember, the reticle is actually projected out to your target plane, so you will see it like anything else at that distance. Also, if you have astigmatism or use bifocals, you may see the image less distinctly.

http://www.eotech-inc.com/technicalfaqs.php

I had made up my mind on the exact EoTech model i wanted and the difference
in between every model.

I had to take a little dry to find a shop that had them in stock so i could go check
one out before i bought. (a boy was i glad i did)

There was 4 of us in that shop and i had to draw a picture of what i was seeing and turns out all 4 of us did not see the exact same reticle.

I tried 512, 516, 552, and Xps
all blurry as hell..... (i tried looking through not at, i tried everything i could - minus useing my glasses i never wear)

Looks like i need to save a few more weeks for an AimPoint.


just saying if you have non 20/20 eye sight you might want to go look for yourself
through an EoTech before you plunk down $400+ on one.

[Failure2Stop]

If you have never used a non-magnified optic you are very likely to see a blurry reticle the first time you look through the optic because you are trying to focus on the reticle at the distance the optic body is from the eye. The optics are designed for a "threat focus, two eyed use" and are therefore focused at infinity. The effect is that if your eye is focused at optic distance the reticle will be out of focus.

Astigmatism will effect the appearance of both.

[RetLawman]

Ah, the Aimpoint vs. EOTech argument. Kinda like politics and religion.

YES, I have (and had) them all....Aimpoints, EO's and ACOGS. Personally (and that's all it is) I have mostly EOTechs. I've had 512's, 557's and recently, XPS's. I've NEVER had a battery drain issue or the dreaded "turn-itself-off" syndrome. I'm not saying these problems don't exist or aren't real, just that they've never been a problem to me.

The Aimpoints are obviously a very well-made, rugged, reliable piece of equipment. I have a T-1 on an AR pistol and it is perfect for what I wanted....the smallest, lightest CQB optic available. I have, however sold/traded my other Aimpoints.

Once again, PERSONALLY, I have a hard time justifying the price for a "dot-in-a-tube". The EO's offer a true holographic sight, a sophisticated (as compared to a dot) reticle with the ring, dot and BDC, and a wider FOV. Although I've never had a problem, I think the re-design of the EO XPS-Series, with the battery orientation change, will solve the battery "contact" issue that's been reported.

As far as battery life, I've never had a drain issue, and simply swap-out the batteries every 6-9 months, as I do with ANY battery-operated device on the weapons. I guess the ability to leave Aimpoints on for months in the safe is appealing to some people, but if I can't find the time to push a little button in a SHTF situation, I've got bigger problems!

It all comes down to what you want, what works for you and what you can afford. Me? I LOVE my ACOGS!!!!!!! Those buggers are worth every penny.

[halo2304]

Ah, the Aimpoint vs. EOTech argument. Kinda like politics and religion.
...
It all comes down to what you want, what works for you and what you can afford. Me? I LOVE my ACOGS!!!!!!! Those buggers are worth every penny.

Way to choose a side! I bet you'd choose a .40S&W if you were given a choice between 9mm or .45ACP, wouldn't you?

I'm teasing of course!

I'm with you on the "dot-in-a-tube" thing. The Aimpoint M4s are nice, especially since they take a AA battery. But they are, in my opinion, not worth saving my pennies for when I could by an M2 or M3 for less and get the same reticle, a dot. I'm still torn between getting an Aimpoint, an ACOG or some other scope. Since I'm a bit of a cheap-az bastid, ACOGs are probably not going to be part of my armory any time soon, as well as a Schmitt & Bender anything. I've been toying with the idea of a Leupold Prismatic or a Valdada 3x25.
Too many choices, none quite what I want and not enough rail space for all of them!