Rem.870 Shortshot Stock???

[number1olddog]

I will be buying a Remy 870 express in the morning and will be ordering different accessories such as a KNOXX recoil reducing stock, side saddle shotgun shell holder(not sure which one yet) and this Hogue forend. What exactly is a Shortshot stock and do I not need this one or should I just get the regular forend? Also I was thinking of the Tac Star side saddle for the simple reason they use Aluminum set screws. I like the Mesa but I really don't want Steel set srcews as I think that they might make the receiver holes larger in diameter after a while. Any input?
Thanks.

[RWK]

I say save your money and forget the Knoxx stock. Buy a SureFire lighted forend instead.

[LHS]

I say save your money and forget the Knoxx stock. Buy a SureFire lighted forend instead.

+1 on this.

[Rosco Benson]

The Hogue "Shortstock" is a conventionally configured buttstock with a short 12" LOP. These are nice stocks.

As to the SideSaddle, I think TacStar's has steel bolts too. Mine did. I don't think there's much chance of enlarging the receiver's holes. What there is a chance of is that if you torque the bolts too tight, it'll squeeze the receiver and cause the action to be stiff and balky.

I concur with RWK on the Knox stock.

Rosco

[JEL458]

I believe he was asking about the forend, not the stock. If that is the case, LE guns have the short forend so it fits in the racks in patrol cars. It shouldn't be necessary for you unless you're mounting it in a vehicle rack.

If you look a few threads back, you can find some useful information on the Knoxx stocks. I would follow RWK and others advice and spend those dollars elsewhere. Depending on what it will be used for, I agree about the SF forend, but you may not need one.

Like Rosco, all of the TacStars I have seen had steel bolts. I have maintained a lot of shotguns, many of which were 15+ years old and I have yet to see the holes enlarged from the use of the bolts for a side saddle.

On that note, I bought a couple of sets of the slotted-head bolts from Wilson Combat for my guns. They take a flat head screwdriver (or a quarter or nickel, back of a knife blade, etc) rather than an allen wrench. I can't tell you how many times I have come across a loose or loosening bolt on duty guns and not had the appropriately sized allen wrench on me. They also have the grooves in them like the pins they replace.

[firecop019]

Mine was not an LE Express so it had the longer fore end. I ended up buying the Speedfeed short stock w/ pistol grip and with the short fore end. It works pretty well, then a tac star side saddle. It's functional for the patrol car.

[TOrrock]

I say save your money and forget the Knoxx stock. Buy a SureFire lighted forend instead.

Bingo.

[number1olddog]

Great advise everyone. Im just getting back into shotguns. (need to take a break from ar's for a while) I see alot of people recommending the speedfeed stock with pistol grip. The stock looks longer than the normal fixed stock coming on my 870. I like the idea of a fixed stock with pistol grip but that pistol grip looks funky as hell. While I am sure it's comfy, is there any other fixed stock with pistol grips of good quality as these. I decided not to go with the Surefire forend while that's a little too much for my budget. I am going to go with a Surefire M69 rail with Viking Tactics mount and G2 light. Yes I know its going to be about the same price with this setup but I like it much better. The only thing left to decide on is the stock. I am not a big fan of just fixed stocks. I like some sort of quality stock with a pistol grip, hence why the knoxx fit my persona the best.

[SeriousStudent]

Jason, it's your money. But I agree with Templar and the others.

Some things just have a habit on coming back full circle. I found the pistol grip Speedfeed stock made manipulation of the slide release more challenging. A regular stock is faster for many. The pistol grip can aid with recoil management, however.

You may want to do some Googling for Rob Haught, Luis Awerbuck, Bill Jeans, and some other folks. Their skill set with a shotgun is quite good, to say the least. Our very own Buck, the M4C mod, also has some skill with a scattergun.

And almost everyone I know that bought some sort of light system other than the Surefire, eventually abandoned it after heavy use.

I have a Speedfeed pistol grip stock sitting in a box in a closet. It's next to the box of holsters that looked perfect, but weren't. That box is next to the box of mag carriers that didn't, the lights that won't, etc...... You get the idea. It was false economy.

I would just save some money for a bit longer. But it's your wallet. Not talking down to you at all, just friendly advice from someone that was in the same boat a few years back.

Good luck to you, whatever you choose.

[ryanm]

I really like my sureshot, I had a speedfeed on this particular shotgun as well. This stock reduced felt recoil vs. the speedfeed.