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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeMacGillie View Post
    Ive never had a problem getting the pins in or out on a 229.

    I do use a press to insert the inner and outer HD pins on 228s.
    If I'm pulling a pin it's usually because one side has broken off. Those are pretty hard to remove. In my experience removing a whole pin is a whole lot easier. An Arbor press would be really nice for getting the pin in without any hammering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Cataldo View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a Kurt milling vise (or similar) being used to press the pins out?

    What is the weird shaped socket head cap screw like that for? Is it ground off, to accept the taper pin or what???
    Thanks for posting...
    That's correct, I use a Kurt vise to pop out taper pins now.
    7500lbs of very controllable clamping force in the palm of your hand.

    As GotM4 mentioned, the socket head cap screw is slightly ground so it matches the profile of the side of the FSB.
    The allen socket makes room for the large end of the taper pin to move slightly.
    I only use the setup pictured above to "pop loose" the pins.
    Once they are broken loose, a regular punch moves them out with my 4 oz hammer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quib View Post
    If I had your shop and machining capabilities.......yes, I’d have one too! But for now my Stanley nail set will do.
    My "fancy" shop leaves much to be desired.





    I attribute most of the good work that come out of the shop the the loose nut behind the wheel, not the machines...

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    I See a Nipple, this thread is now NSFW

    I still have a "Nipples are for women, not guns" shirt that I picked up at Friendship somewhere LL

    Luke, Flintlock Smoothbore shooter for Life
    Life is too short to deal with Blonde women, or carbine barrels over 10.5 inches

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    Randall,
    Will your new press remove stubborn installed backwards CMT/Stag taper pins? I've sold longer than CAR length Troy and Samson rails to customers wanting to loose the FSB on these barrels and I just cut/grind & refinish the FSB so it fits under the rail of these rails after the bitch of a time you and I both had with my old Stag barrel now a 10.3"

    I'm going to be building it up with a LaRue billet upper and the 11" LaRue rail and a Noveske KX3 for it one of these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotm4 View Post
    Will your new press remove stubborn installed backwards CMT/Stag taper pins?
    Sometimes it works.
    Sometimes my pin breaks.
    I have broken my pusher exactly two times, BOTH on Stag barrels.
    The tip of the pusher is a piece of tool steel that I OD grind.
    The Kurt vise is very slow and controlled force, but those Stag barrels will make the tool steel crack!
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    Randall,
    I thought the jaws of the Kurt vise (and most other machine vises) were hardened. How did you drill and tap the jaws? I've had a hell of a time drilling, and ESPECIALLY tapping hardened steel, even with the highest quality taps...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Cataldo View Post
    Randall,
    I thought the jaws of the Kurt vise (and most other machine vises) were hardened. How did you drill and tap the jaws? I've had a hell of a time drilling, and ESPECIALLY tapping hardened steel, even with the highest quality taps...
    The jaws that come with a Kurt vise are hard jaws, but most people use soft jaws.
    My soft jaws happen to be aluminum.
    Randall Rausch
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    Gotcha,
    They just looked like the original jaws in the pic. I did not know Kurt also made jaws of aluminum (unless you milled them yourself).
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Cataldo View Post
    Gotcha,
    They just looked like the original jaws in the pic. I did not know Kurt also made jaws of aluminum (unless you milled them yourself).
    Thanks.
    I don't know if Kurt makes them either, but there are several guys on ebay selling them cheap enough that it's not worth my time to make them myself.
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