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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddog60 View Post
    I do understand but I would rather use NV than show where I'm standing. If someone has broken into my home how do I know that they are a threat they are there period. Thanks for the replys
    Ever use NV in a CQB environment? Every priced out quality NV?


    I own a PVS-14. I own a SureFire weapon light. I have attended MANY hours of low light CQB classes.

    I would never use my NV in a dynamic, CQB environment (aka clearing rooms with bad guys and good guys mixed in their together).


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    Quote Originally Posted by spamsammich View Post
    with the recent influx of arfcom booger eaters
    I LOL'd. Seriously.

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    "I'm lost here.

    If you only want to mount a scope and a flashlight, then why the railed forend?

    Just put the scope on the flattop of the receiver, and mount the flashlight on the front sight base.

    You already seem to be a victim of the "gotta have it" or "see it, want it" mentality that you're questioning... "

    I assumed the rail type front end was the best way to mount a light, AND I thought it would give me options down the road. As much as these are serious social rifles....I do intend to enjoy it. I could see adding a vertical grip, for example. What I DON"T want are accesories that will make my rifle LESS dependable, LESS efficient, just because some YouTube Commando has them.....I'm not refering to anyone I've met on here, but sheesh, there are some real "wannabes" on the internet and hanging around the tactical counter at the gun stores....

    Maddog - I'm new to AR's but not to self defense concepts....PLEASE don't engage a "robber" with your NV.....use a white light. Imagine trying to explain in court how you hid at the top of the stairs in the dark, with your night vision goggles, and lit the bad guy up with your AR (they would use the term "assault rifle" or "machine gun").....I can't imagine that would end well for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNorris View Post
    "I'm lost here.

    If you only want to mount a scope and a flashlight, then why the railed forend?

    Just put the scope on the flattop of the receiver, and mount the flashlight on the front sight base.

    You already seem to be a victim of the "gotta have it" or "see it, want it" mentality that you're questioning... "

    I assumed the rail type front end was the best way to mount a light, AND I thought it would give me options down the road. As much as these are serious social rifles....I do intend to enjoy it. I could see adding a vertical grip, for example. What I DON"T want are accesories that will make my rifle LESS dependable, LESS efficient, just because some YouTube Commando has them.....I'm not refering to anyone I've met on here, but sheesh, there are some real "wannabes" on the internet and hanging around the tactical counter at the gun stores....
    No idea whom your post is directed towards, but I will answer.
    While mounting a rail to your FSB and sticking a light on it will work, it might not be the best option. I personally prefer a light mounted at 12 position. So this means that I use a rail.
    I also run 2 point slings and like them to connect in a specific position. Again, need a rail.



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    Thanks for your

    [QUOTE=spamsammich;613999]Now you're just being silly, do you have any idea what percentage of the gun buying public has access to NV gear? What about people who live with children or pets that make things go bump in the night, YOU WANT A POSITIVE ID ON WHAT YOUR SHOOTING. A white light is a relatively inexpensive and easy way to acheive this. There is NO arguing against that.

    Get a light, get some training. You'll find that nobody advocates lighting a threat up and standing there to take bullets, NOBODY DOES. You may give away your LAST position if your properly trained, but that's it, you get off the X
    Wanna discuss this more? Start a thread on it so you can get the real skinny from experts.
    /thread hijack.[/QUOTE Thanks for ur wisdom I do have NV and will use that instead of a bright light to each's own thanks for ur input I'm done now

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    G4IGrant - I was quoting a question that 'Bimmer" asked me, I don't quite know how to operate the sites "quote" system yet....

    Thanks guys, for all of this information, I can't believe the info available here.

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    MADDOG SAID "Thanks for ur wisdom I do have NV and will use that instead of a bright light to each's own thanks for ur input I'm done now"

    Seriously buddy, you should listen to some of the advise you have been given. You are going to get yourself in some trouble....or worse....trying to utilize NV as part of your home defense load out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I would prefer to take a basic course first and learn the operation of the gun and how to run it in daylight, and then later after getting down that unconscious competence (or at least conscious competence) thing I'd look for a low-light/night course.

    I have shot in, and run, a few low-light matches and I really prefer to do it with people who have the basic loading/shooting/reloading/unloading thing down first.

    Agreed.

    His training background, however, has not been stated, regardless of his 10 post on this forum, although after reading all of his post, the lack of basic firearms application and mindset, is rather apparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerinTPA View Post
    Agreed.

    His training background, however, has not been stated, regardless of his 10 post on this forum, although after reading all of his post, the lack of basic firearms application and mindset, is rather apparent.
    I think he said somewhere he wasn't new to guns but was new to the AR. I get a lot of shooters like that at our drills nights and there is still a definite learning curve.

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    I'm lost here.

    If you only want to mount a scope and a flashlight, then why the railed forend?

    Just put the scope on the flattop of the receiver, and mount the flashlight on the front sight base.

    You already seem to be a victim of the "gotta have it" or "see it, want it" mentality that you're questioning...

    Bimmer
    The forend rail greatly simplifies attaching these accessories, particularly lights. Most other light-attaching methods are mediocre at best and not very strong attachment points. Another method is to buy the complete Surefire dedicated forend, like the M500A, but these are more expensive then most rail systems, plus a dependable flashlight!
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